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The Bilstein 5100 Nisstec conversion extended length from top of mount plate to center of lower eye is 16.75".

I've got some OE KYB replacements on my porch I'll try to measure when I get home.
Sounds good. I'll have the OEM Bilstein 4600s ready to measure in a couple weeks when I take mine off. I'll measure the 6112s going in front and 5125s in back.
 
KYB OE Quick strut 16.5
Hoping to get the rest of the parts I need in soon, so I'll have the 6112 and OEM 4600 measurements to add. There's a set of Radflo 2.0 extended travel coilovers for sale that I'm hoping either the seller or new owner would measure for us. I think this could be very useful information overall (the center of lower mount to top of top hat measurement) - particularly if you're looking at adding spacers. I'll start a second list with the new measurement metric, but for now I have some other updates on the expanded/collapsed figures:

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Hoping to get the rest of the parts I need in soon, so I'll have the 6112 and OEM 4600 measurements to add. There's a set of Radflo 2.0 extended travel coilovers for sale that I'm hoping either the seller or new owner would measure for us. I think this could be very useful information overall (the center of lower mount to top of top hat measurement) - particularly if you're looking at adding spacers. I'll start a second list with the new measurement metric, but for now I have some other updates on the expanded/collapsed figures:

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Measured my extended Rads vs @IssacHunter 's T-Swap rads and the T-Swap 2.0s are exactly 1" longer than my extended OE width 2.0 Rads.
 
Measured my extended Rads vs @IssacHunter 's T-Swap rads and the T-Swap 2.0s are exactly 1" longer than my extended OE width 2.0 Rads.
So this leads to my next thought. Why not run the T-Swap rads in an OE width setup instead of OE length Rads with a spacer on top? You'd have the same OAL with more travel without having the spacer in there. I understand that the OE length is cheaper than the T-swap but you gain the up-travel you loose with the spacer and don't have to worry about getting the extended studs. I'm going to keep my eye out for a set to put in my X and test out to see how they work out. It's a bunch of $$ to put in there I admit for a test but I'm curious and after this weekend, I'm thinking more about going with a T-swap eventually since the width isn't that bad on OE wheels and I think I can easily swing 295's in there on OE wheels without spacers.
 
Nissan Xterra tech:

Strut length/travel reference:

Being unsatisfied with the down travel of my truck with the quicklift shocks, I decided to do some research on what shock really has the longest stroke in order to extract the most wheel down travel while maintaining a low ride height.

I noticed that there is no thread specifying the lengths of the different brands and models available for the 2nd generation xterra.

In order to simplify this process for myself, and others who might want to make a decision on which strut to purchase in the future in order to get their ride height and wheel travel tuned closed to perfection, I have compiled a list.

MISSING:

•Race Runner SAW coilover

•TJM extended length coilover

•Drop bracket length coil over.



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*- can be purchased pre-assembled for $110 more.

**- can be purchased un-assembled for a lower cost.

***- based on stock xterra width arms, which creates a 1:1.5 shock to wheel travel ratio.

Disclaimer:

I am only collecting info on the length and travel of the shocks available. I know nothing about valving or suspension tuning, nor is it what I researched.

Also, this research does not consider the ride “quality” of each product as I consider that more of a subjective thing.

Coil length used was not research either.

I am not an engineer or fabricator nor do I play one on TV, I just have OCD.

The point of collecting this data is to determine which shock will allow the most travel, and which one uses the shortest coil.

Observations:



Tallest:*

1.OME

2.Bilstein

3.Rancho

4.OEM

*-missing data.

Most travel:*

1.1.OME

2.Radflo

3.Bilstein

4.Rancho

5.OEM



Conclusion:

Most people online will praise the radflos, without having experience with any other strut. I currently run Rancho quicklifts and they ride GREAT, but again I have nothing to compare them to.

The Rancho quicklift is exactly what its name implies, a quicklift. It lowers the bottom coil seat (excuse my ignorance of the technical term) and provides the same amount of travel as OEM at a higher ride height (about 1.5” taller, from my own experience.) The adjustability of the dampening is pretty neat, and the thickness of the shock and piston are pleasing.

The Old Man Emu strut is surprisingly long, and most of the users of this kit have claimed they feel an increased wheel travel EVEN at the increased ride height. This makes sense because BOTH the coil and strut in the OME kit are significantly longer than stock.

I think enough has been said about the radflo on this forum. They have a very positive reputation thanks to PRG, who valves them in a way specific to the Xterra. This along with the precise adjustability of ride height makes this coilover extremely popular. The most common issues seen on the forum is limited down travel when adjusted over 3” taller and I remember one thread where a few people mentioned their radflo randomly fell apart, YMMV. The limited down travel can be fixed with a strut spacer.

The stroke length is not top dog, coming in second to the OME strut (pending SAW and TJM length.) Personally I would sacrifice some “dampening” for more travel since the kind of wheeling I do is not high speed at all, as well as a nice chunk of change in my pocket.

The majority of the users who run the adjustable Bilsteins complain about topping/bottoming out when cranked up, which can happen with ANY adjustable shock (even a radflo) when increasing ride height by increasing coil preload. Its interesting to see that this shock has just slightly less travel than the very expensive radflo. Of course as preload is increasing by moving the snap ring up, down travel is decreased.

Personal opinion:

From what I have observed, and if the assumption that only strut stroke determines suspension travel is true, then the optimal combo for my personal situation would be to run the bilsteins at stock height with a stock length coil, a 1.5-2” strut spacer and aftermarket control arms. This way, I can have all of the down travel the strut provides, at the height that I want (1.5-2” over stock) without risk of bottoming out or having to lift the vehicle too much.

I COULD use a radflo, and pay almost four times as much for about 5/8 more of wheel travel, but I am not going to lose any sleep over it.

I COULD also use the OME strut and coil, but this would yield about 2.5” of lift, which is 0.5-1” more than I want. It is also about twice as expensive than the bilsteins.

Considerations:

•Did not consider any relation of coil length to suspension travel.

•Did not consider the limitation of the control arms/sway bar/CVs on the wheel travel.

•Assumed the ratio of 1:1.5 inches of shock to wheel travel, based on the OEM wheel travel/OEM stroke length. (6/4=1.5)

•I cannot calculate what amount of travel is up travel and what amount is down travel, but if I had to take I would disconnect the sway bar and jack my truck up until the wheels JUST came off the ground and found the ratio of down travel to total travel and then to shock travel.

Closing notes:

If anyone notices my math, or any of my arguments are off, please feel free to correct me. Thanks!

Stay tuned for my rear shock cross comparison!



References:

1.OME: http://www.sleeoffroad.com/installation/ome_shock_specs.pdf

2.Bilstein: http://www.my4by.com/bilstein-24-187053-shock-p-4511.html

3.Radflo: http://www.radflo.com/oe_app.htm

4.Rancho: http://www.my4by.com/rancho-quicklift-and-quick-lift-loaded-specs-a-11.html

5.OEM: my garage and a measuring tape.


This is some great info, appreciate the research


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Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but does anyone know the collapsed and extended lengths of the Titan Swap length Radflo 2.0s?

Or... Anyone know what the collapsed and extended length requirements are for a Titan Swap? [emoji37][emoji848]

I've been googling and searching all the suspension relared topics on here and maybe I'm just missing it...

Just need eyelet to eyelet (compressed and extended) and the eyelet diameter for the the through bolts. [emoji16]

Please and thank you. [emoji52]
 
Anyone know what the collapsed and extended length requirements are for a Titan Swap?]

Per this thread: https://www.thenewx.org/forum/14-su...-review-tundra-coilovers-t-swap-perfect-budget-coilover-pbr.html#/topics/167106

Gen 1 Tundra 5100
P/N: BIL 24-188265
Collapsed Length (IN): 13.23"
Extended Length (IN): 18.68"
Travel Length (IN): 5.45"

2.5 SAW T-Swap
Collapsed Length (IN): 14"
Extended Length (IN): 19.5"
Travel Length (IN): 5.5"

Though it doesn’t answer the eyelet question.
 
@caain came over from clubfrontier to say thank you for posting this chart, I've been looking for the 6112 specs and couldn't find them anywhere
Hoping to get the rest of the parts I need in soon, so I'll have the 6112 and OEM 4600 measurements to add. There's a set of Radflo 2.0 extended travel coilovers for sale that I'm hoping either the seller or new owner would measure for us. I think this could be very useful information overall (the center of lower mount to top of top hat measurement) - particularly if you're looking at adding spacers. I'll start a second list with the new measurement metric, but for now I have some other updates on the expanded/collapsed figures:

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Per this post


Top plate to eye centre:
Stock bilstein 16 1/2"
Radflo extended travel 17 13/16"

My MK84 "extended travel*" 16 3/4"

*yeah right, 1/4" extended travel, what a crock.
 
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