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How-to: Poor Man's Catch Can

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#1 · (Edited)
Had a bit of interest in this so I figured I'd just make a separate thread for this.
There's a few thread already on this but those use legitimate catch cans :grin: I opted to use an air/water separator instead of an actual catch can because its cheaper than the real thing and parts and shipping are expensive in Canada lol.

I also thought about getting a cheap one off ebay but those are usually just empty aluminum cylinders. There isn't any baffling to condense oil vapors or steam in the bottom of the can. Sure, you can add some yourself pretty easily but I went with this route since these separators are already baffled and filtered.

Here's the shopping list:
- A 3/8 inline air/water separator. The one in my X is from Home Depot and I have one from Lowe's in my Pathfinder
- 3/8" NPT 3/8" barbed fittings (x2). I decided to use 90 degree fittings so reduce the overall space the can uses
- Teflon tape for the threads
- 3/8" fuel hose. Length will vary on where you decide to mount the can
- Hose clamps
- A mount for the can. Get creative with this. I repurposed a bracket I found in my garage. You could use metal strapping for plumbing lines or zip ties
- (Optional) 3/8" hose connectors/splices

Start by prepping the separator. Get your fittings on and figure out where you want to mount it.
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I relocated mine beside the brake booster. It was previously mounted on the relay/fuse box lid. Again, mount it where you can easily access it to empty it. I know some others have mounted theirs near the air box or zip tied to the main wiring bundle on the firewall. Your choice.
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Note that these separators have a valve on the bottom. They eventually start to leak so you can either plug it up with some JB weld or take it out completely and replace it with a nut, bolt, and rubber washer.
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Locate the PCV hose that goes back into the intake and pull it off the nipple. You could pull this hose at the other end at the back of the engine and connect your new hose directly from the PCV valve or do what I did and just add a connector. The connector just allows me to easily return back to a stock setup if I ever wanted to.
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Run this line from the PCV valve to the IN port of the separator and run the other line from the OUT port back to the intake nipple and clamp the hoses in place. The nice thing about these water separators is that they show direction of flow and they're stamped IN and OUT.

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Secure all the new hose and that's it!


As a side note: they typically have this size and a smaller 1/4" fitting size of water separators. I went with this size so I wouldn't need to empty it as often. Having the bigger can is also nicer in the winter since you'll notice that you'll get a lot of water collecting in the can. Otherwise, just bypass the can completely and return to stock if you don't feel like emptying it during the winter.

Also: If you're feeling ambitious, check out the post from @29erClan (post 17) for his plans on a custom aluminum mount.
 
#5 · (Edited)
Thanks guys!




The air/water separator was about $40 both at Lowe's and Home Depot.
I got about 8 feet of fuel hose at $1.50/foot from a local shop. Princess Auto sells this stuff pretty cheap too.
The 3/8 fittings were from just out of my plumbing toolbox. You could snag a pair at NAPA or Princess for about $5.
3/8 hose clamps were a pack of 4 at Princess for like $2.50.
I already had small stuff like teflon tape, JB weld, miscellaneous hardware and the mount kicking around my garage.

So in total, just under $60 CAD. Not too bad when you look at prices for legit catch cans and factor in the exchange rate and shipping.
 
#7 ·
Your How-To reminded me of the problematic factory diesel-water separator on the '87 Ford F250 I used to own [6.9 c.i. Navistar/IH engine], which was emptied pulling a ring to open a spring loaded valve that was prone to leakage. I replaced it with an aftermarket filter/separator that had a valve on the bottom of the filter

Rather than cap off or JB weld the hole for the valve on the bottom of your Home Depot /air/water separator, you could use the existing valve or a higher quality brass ballcock valve and run some fuel line down to a convenient location and cap it there as a backup in case the valve leaks or is accidentally opened. Then all you need do to drain your "catch can" is open the valve and drain into an empty coffee can, mason jar, etc. Seems easier to me than unscrewing the separator body and trying to get it out of the engine bay without spilling.

An illustration (without the cap on the end of the fuel line):
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#9 ·
Your How-To reminded me of the problematic factory diesel-water separator on the '87 Ford F250 I used to own [6.9 c.i. Navistar/IH engine], which was emptied pulling a ring to open a spring loaded valve that was prone to leakage. I replaced it with an aftermarket filter/separator that had a valve on the bottom of the filter

Rather than cap off or JB weld the hole for the valve on the bottom of your Home Depot /air/water separator, you could use the existing valve or a higher quality brass ballcock valve and run some fuel line down to a convenient location and cap it there as a backup in case the valve leaks or is accidentally opened. Then all you need do to drain your "catch can" is open the valve and drain into an empty coffee can, mason jar, etc. Seems easier to me than unscrewing the separator body and trying to get it out of the engine bay without spilling.
I haven't had any issues with unscrewing the container off the top and I can lift it a fair amount out of the engine bay because of my zip tie placement so I haven't had issues with spilling either but that's a pretty good idea if you emptied it with oil changes and wanted to stay under the truck.

You can score one of the 3/8th units at HF for under $15. You Canucks really get screwed over when you have to buy stuff.
Yup. Car parts, tools/materials, and booze are expensive here. I've had a hell of a time piecemealing my lift kit together. I just paid around $600 for my OME leafs and I've just gotta snag a Daystar shackle kit for the front lift spacers
 
#15 ·
So I know you've only had this installed for a few days, but how much oil are we talking here?

Based on previous responses I'd say <8 fluid oz per 3000 miles seems reasonable.

EDIT: Thank you Mr. Bills for preemptively answering my question. Another polite and informative answer to someone's question.
 
#17 · (Edited)
So my son was reading this with me and wants to do the install. I like the fact that if the air tool filter turns out to not work so well I can just undo it and I have a nice filter to find a use for. (Water condensing in the lines is a pretty big problem around here with the normal humidity and something like a chilly 75 degrees outside tonight...)

Anyway, we picked the Homedepot unit even though it cost more than the HF copy. Mainly because I work nearly across the street from HD and HF is a 10 mile drive. Couldn't find any right angle fittings so for now we got straights and will get elbows later if neded.

And of course I wanted to make a cool sheet aluminum bracket...
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The plan is 1/8" cheap stuff. 3003 I think. Springy stuff has been a fail every time I tried in previous projects so I put in a locking screw this time. I can't remember if it's M6 or 1/4" - whatever tap and screw I could find. Loose screw, unit slides in. Tight screw, unit can't move. Feels solid to me.
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I don't know if you can see in my pics, but the casting looks identical to the blue Kobalt in the OP pics. Notches, curves, everything.
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The back side has slots for screws, zip ties, or whatever it gets mounted with. The back is also pretty close to the same profile so call it a fit guide, heat shield, etc.
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I still suck at making SW drawings in PDF, but I've got the DXF flat pattern and IGS 3D model to share in the attached ZIP file. Public domain. Make one, make a million, be my guest.

Here's what the flat pattern looks like:
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That's it for me. Thanks to @Xpresso for the nice OP that got my son interested in the project. :)
 

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#18 ·
Those are pretty cool plans! I wish I had the means to fab up a bracket like that. I mean, the things I could go if I could... I'd never be bored haha. And I'm glad the post peaked the interest of your son! It's always nice to do little father son projects.

And yeah, the castings for the Husky and Kobalt separators are pretty much identical. The Kobalt one has lower max pressure and CFM ratings for some reason, but it doesn't really matter for this application.
 
#29 ·
Thanks for the links @Xpresso!

My $15 catch can came today. As expected it is completely hollow. Furthermore, I just covered the outlet and blew into the inlet to pressure test and there are at least 3 leaks. Hopefully teflon tape will fix the leaks and hold up to the oil. Maybe I'll use rtv instead.

After reading the links above, I will probably retrofit some baffles. More updates to come after I tear it apart.
 
#31 ·
Today I started plugging all the holes in this cheapo catch can. Went with ultimate synthetic rtv.

Still deciding if I want to put some kind of baffling in. The best idea for me would be some kind of steel scrubbing pad that I can squeeze in but has thick enough filaments that it won't end up inside my engine.

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Both downspouts are the same length. Not sure if I want to extend the inlet with a longer tube with holes in it. It's possible but finding a good size pipe might be a challenge.
@VMBiohazard nice install. Can you tell me the direction of flow?