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2010’s Rear Brakes

3.3K views 7 replies 4 participants last post by  Jimbabwe52  
#1 ·
Some research I’ve done shows that all 2nd Gens should have rear combo brakes. Which means the E-Brake shoes inside the rotor cap on top of an inner drum. That’s what I’ve seen on Ry the Car Guy’s video and what pops up when I search for rear brake and rotor replacement.
All that’s registered from removing the rear tires to do rear shock replacement is that I have a disc. Solid and not appearing to be in two parts. I may be wrong and will need to confirm by pulling off the tires again to measure my rotor thickness.
Here is where I’ll tell you I have a 2010 S, 4WD that I bought used 2 years ago. I’ve yet to replace the brakes but, feels like I’ll need to do so soon. I’ve also noticed since I never use the E-Brake, but while teaching my niece to drive a few months ago, she was using it. When I would go to drive after dropping her off, I’d feel NO resistance. Handle pulled ALL the way up.
Back to my findings. Searching online for parts, all that comes up is straight up disc rotors. Diagrams in an image search show the same when they specify it’s for a 2010. Can’t find any diagram showing where the shoes are located in that setup. Pricing for the disc/drum combo pricing at around seven bills. I’m not wanting to drop $700-800 if I’m not even using the E-Brake.
So, my big question is: Can anyone confirm my findings? If so, and what I need is plain disc rotors, does anyone have a diagram or good video showing how to fix my E-Brake for much less than $700? If I have good shoes and/or a drum/ stopping apparatus, I’d like to make it operable again, just for S&G’s.
 
#2 · (Edited)
The “drum” is built into the rotor. It’s a single rotor and the parking brake shoes push on the interior cylinder when engaged. Here’s a good how-to:


Edit I’m not sure where you’re seeing $700. I spec’d out the rear with rotors, pads, parking brake shoes, and hardware for $185 on rock auto. That was using higher end parts too…

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You may need to adjust the parking brake. It’s fairly straight forward. How to:

 
#5 ·
I've seen both the videos. Good videos. I've only been dealing with the rear rotors while changing out the rear shocks. I hadn't really examined them or taken them apart, only removed the wheel for some easier access to the area. After another look at the videos by Ry, I realized I was thinking of what it all looked like with the outer portion of the rotor removed and thinking that the assembly should always look like what is exposed while adjusting or changing the shoes.
As for the $700 cost for replacing the brakes, I was on CarID and at the top of the list is a listing of OEM parts and a link to look at the entire assembly, which I can only assume is everything back to the axles. That exploded view doesn't even show the shoes, springs and rest of that drum assembly inside. I CAN get the individual parts for much closer to what you showed from Rock Auto.
Finding that sort of misleading information when you enter some very specific search parameters can be frustrating. That and searching while at work (luckily I have the luxury of being able to do that), mixed in with doing the few duties I have, sort of distracts and makes the process longer. That and trying to juggle the search for info for the right parts and tools to do a change of the front shocks and coils. First I'm doing all of this maintenance myself for any vehicle. Throw in I'm still doing research on doing a Titan swap I want to do in a few months as well.
The answers I got were all good, thorough, and patient with a "newbie." It's better advice than I got turning to All Dogs about advice on a video preparing the Bilstein's for the front I'm going to put on. Which is to say, that I got the advice: "It's all in the video." Now, PRG will get my Titan swap business rather than them.
Thanks again, guys!
 
#3 ·
As shown in the video, there's some adjustment at the parking brake handle... which is REALLY easy. But it sounds like that won't be enough for you. SO, loosen that all the way, THEN tighten at the brakes. Then you'll have room to tighten at the handle later on. Maybe he covers that, I can't watch it with sound right now.

Sometimes a leaky axle seal can cause the e-brake to slip, or even just junk build up from a spill or slow seepage over the years. So, I'd take it apart, clean, adjust and see where you're at for the cost of some aerosol brake cleaner and a pair of latex gloves.
 
#4 ·
Adjusting the parking brake (what you need) is done at the brake. Remove the wheel and adjust through the access hole.
Adjusting the lever (the easy fix) doesn't actually adjust the park brake. That is the adjuster for the cable actuator. You need to make sure that is backed off before actually adjusting the parking brake.
The linkage that applies the brake shoes (via the cable) only has so much travel to it. If the brakes are out of adjustment and you just tighten the cable you can run out of linkage travel or even just not be in the optimal part of the linkage stroke. This can leave you with a park brake that feels okay on flat ground, but when really needed doesn't have the holding power it should.