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edit: bet it's the DRL's....eh
 
I will get the pictures up tomorrow. I'm almost done, all the wiring are in place. Missing 1 part which is the fuse tap "add a circuit" will pick up tomorrow to complete the fog light by-pass to give it complete independent control. Hopefully everything goes as planned.
 
First of all I want to give big THANK to theascended, who is very helpful to answer all my questions. I'm not an electrician and certainly not electrical engineer but with his explanation I was able to complete the fog light mod which I wanted to do from the day I picked up my X.
Also thank you to macguyvermedic for his original mod which give idea.

If you have a 2009 - 2011 2.5 Gen model X you will notice that the IDPM are not the same as the 2nd Gen X so you can not follow the how-to from macguyvermedic.
As pointed out by treybomb.
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In that case you will need to add a relay for your fog light.

First step please follow these steps shown here from macguyvermedic to modify the stalk.
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NEXT: Once you have the panel off remove the stalk
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NEXT:Remove screws that hold stalk cover on
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Next: Clip wires and solder 5' extensions onto factory wires
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Next: Modify stalk cover and reinstall
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Next: Reinstall stalk and route wires as shown
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Instead of removing the wires from the circuit board, I cut in the middle so if I want to return it back to stock I just need to solder those wires back easier than on the circuit board.
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Instead of break off the white tab I loop the wires through the hole provided.
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Second step, I run one of those wire to the IDPM fuse box in the engine bay through the firewall, the other wire you only need about 1-2 foot long and ground it to the metal of your X.
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Third step, you will need to prepare your relay, and follow this diagram from theascended.
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(the 2 wires from 30 and 85, you only need them to be 5-6" long.)
The reason why there is no wire in the number 86 from the relay, this is where we need to connect the wire that we ran from the light switch stalk to the IDPM earlier.


Forth step you need to connect the add-a-circuit fuse tap to number 85 on the relay and add the spade connector to number 30 on the relay like so...
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You do need to modify to the spade connector to make it smaller to be able to connect to the fog light fuse spot by filing it down.
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Next, you want to connect the spade connector to F10 slot, and the fuse tap add-a-circuit to F7 slot.
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Next, you want to run the wire from the light switch stalk and the 12V power wire through the hole provided in the fuse box.
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Final step is to connect the 12V red wire to the battery and you are done. You will be able to use the fog lights with your head lights (high beam and lo beam), and with the roof lights. Or turn it off if you don't want to use it.
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^^^ Nope, I have no need to do that because it works perfectly the way it is.
I only want it to work with my hi beam only. There's no point turning it on by itself or with lo beam. If we use the roof lights, it's obvious that we want more lights but the fogs get disabled when the roof are on which is why I want to do the fog light bypass mod.
 
Wasabi this is a great post, it really should be by itself and a true how to for by passing the fog light restriction.

I'll be using this soon when I install my fogs (hopefully later this week).
 
Relays...that's all it takes to make the fogs come on with the parking lights!!

Splice into the parking light wiring and run the power wire to the fogs...that way you're not messing with stock relays to short anything out or overload it.
 
Just wanted to post and say thank you to the op for this thread. Also wanted to.give abheads up I went to a pep boys while I was waiting for my wife and they had nothing of what is needed for this mod. So it seems auto zone or maybe kragens is the best bet
Haven't tried radio shack yet.

Have to read this thread a few more times to make myself comfortable doing both mods. This was much easier on my Subaru wrx.
 
Fog lights mod:

To really make this work the way I wanted, I combined the following two mods:
http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f23/fog-light-pass-2991/
http://www.thenewx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=41057

I don't like how the first is an "always on" sort of thing nor do I like that it loads a previously 10A circuit with up to 25A. So, I used the fuse tap to give me a positive voltage when the tails were on and I used the stalk mod to let me know when the switch was on (note, I wired a positive voltage to the stalk instead of a ground). The resulting circuit was two relays in series wired directly to the battery and the fogs (I actually wired it to the fog lights circuit in the fuse box).

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Just want to make sure I'm understanding this right. I have a '12 Pro-4X which I assume is wired the same as an '11.

What I'm looking to do is be able to use the fogs with my parking lights, low beams, and high beams. That way with fogs and high beams on I could also turn on the OR lights.

So all I need to do is what I quoted above correct? I have little knowledge of electrical stuff, but if I know I have the right instructions I think a friend and I should have no problem getting this done.

Also thanks to all of you electrical geniuses here on the forum for helping the rest of us out.
 
So to anyone that completed this mod I am having issues. I followed the guide on page #5 and everything went smoothly but my fog lights will not come on. The light switch is working inside the vehicle as I tested it. The fuse tap works as my brake lights come on, the relay gets power from the battery, but with the switch in the on position now power comes through relay side #30 into the fuse spot f10. I don't know what the issue is if the switch is function OK and I'm getting power. In the 2012 xterra the fuse tap for the f7 fuse doesn't have much room to play with. Maybe I'm not seated all the way getting a good ground?

I even tried plugging into both sides of the f10 slot like a normal fuse and it was a no go. I did this at first not understanding you could plug into one side of a fuse slot.

Any help is appreciated. I don't want to tear all this out as I need the truck for work tomorrow. Hopefully someone like me is home on a Saturday night.
 
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Just want to make sure I'm understanding this right. I have a '12 Pro-4X which I assume is wired the same as an '11.

What I'm looking to do is be able to use the fogs with my parking lights, low beams, and high beams. That way with fogs and high beams on I could also turn on the OR lights.

So all I need to do is what I quoted above correct? I have little knowledge of electrical stuff, but if I know I have the right instructions I think a friend and I should have no problem getting this done.

Also thanks to all of you electrical geniuses here on the forum for helping the rest of us out.
Sorry, I stopped watching this post a while ago. Yes, with this mod the lights are controlled solely by the parking lights and the fog switch in the cab. As you can see from my first picture, I can have my fogs and OR lights on with no headlights if I want.
 
Discussion starter · #57 ·
So to anyone that completed this mod I am having issues. I followed the guide on page #5 and everything went smoothly but my fog lights will not come on. The light switch is working inside the vehicle as I tested it. The fuse tap works as my brake lights come on, the relay gets power from the battery, but with the switch in the on position now power comes through relay side #30 into the fuse spot f10. I don't know what the issue is if the switch is function OK and I'm getting power. In the 2012 xterra the fuse tap for the f7 fuse doesn't have much room to play with. Maybe I'm not seated all the way getting a good ground?

I even tried plugging into both sides of the f10 slot like a normal fuse and it was a no go. I did this at first not understanding you could plug into one side of a fuse slot.

Any help is appreciated. I don't want to tear all this out as I need the truck for work tomorrow. Hopefully someone like me is home on a Saturday night.
Plugging into the fuse slot was a bit frustrating for me too. There is no indication which site is the source and which side is the output. I had to guess too when running the power to the fogs.

The first thing I would do, and I know this is almost condescending, but make sure you've connected to the relays properly. The first page of this thread has two diagrams for the fog mod (the first uses 2 relays, the second uses 1 relay) and both will work. Just verify your circuit and that you're using the right pins on the relay.

Second, make sure you have the right relays. By that I mean, make sure you have SPDT relays and that the relays activate on a 12V signal.

Do you have a multimeter? If you do, let me know which diagram you used and I'll help you find the points you can use to check for faults.
 
Just completed the off road light mod and it was actually fairly painless. I wound up doing the 5 relay set up for the flip flop since I was at work and had access to all the parts besides the diodes. Did all the wiring for the flip flop in about 20 minutes while working and just finished the install in the vehicle after about another 45 minutes. The only part I had trouble with was locating the wires at the connectors, even with the pin out on EXL-108. My only issue with that was the diagrams I use on trucks at work show me the connector face and not the backside(the side the wires come in on).

Planning on doing the fog light mod tomorrow since I did not grab the fuse tap or spade connector while I stopped at work today to pick up tools. That and I need to pick up some solder.

Just finished the fog light mod except for finishing touches to the routing of the wiring. Completely forgot that I can not solder to save my life. I don' really mind that they made it so we need the high beams off for the off road lights to work, but having to have the lows on for the fog lights is a bit dumb in my opinion. But then again they really are not a fog light, they are more of a driving light.

A big thank you for making this how-to.
 
could someone maybe clarify in the single relay fog light rewire...we are grabbing the tail light fuse tap so that the fogs could be run IF the parking lights are on right, but only if the parking lights are on.

If you were to rewire that diagram so that one wire from the stalk went to 12v, the other to the relay, and then replace the fuse tap with a wire running to ground...would that allow you to run the fogs regardless of the parking lights?

I don't have all the parts to test that out yet so i was hoping maybe someone could tell me if that would work theoretically. thanks
 
Yes and yes. Wired the way it is shown in the one relay diagram the fog lights will only work if the parking lights are on. You could wire it the way you mentioned and still have the fog lights work. The only issue with that is what other people of brought up in the past.

First, for those actually using the fog lights in fog or snow, what if they forgot to turn on their parking lights? The would not be seen from the rear. Pretty much using the fuse tap at the tail lamp fuse is an idiot proof fail safe.

Second, without having a fog light on reminder you would have to use a switched power source or you may forget to turn the fog lights off when you get out of the vehicle. Granted you can still leave them on with the parking lights but I find it hard to walk away from the vehicle with the parking lights on.

If you want you can do it the way you said but you would want to either add a second inline fuse for the powered wire you are sending to the switch(a 2-5 amp fuse would be enough since the resistance of a working relay is between 50-100ohms and draw under 1 amp), or you could splice your power wire to the switch after the 15amp fuse you are using for the fog lights themselves.

I would highly recommend using a key switched power source and not a constant battery power source, so you would still need to use a fuse tap. That way they will turn off once you turn the vehicle off.

The choice is yours but the way it is shown in the diagram is a much safer way to do it.
 
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