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Definitely don't do this. You will hit your bump stops well before you hit your fenders. If not, you did not lift correctly...smh
Definitely do this that way you can turn the wheel and cycle the suspension all the way against the bump stop . I guess I should clarify... put the rig up on jack stands , pull out the strut , put the tire back on and use a floor jack to cycle the suspension.
 

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There is nothing to prove from doing this, other than wasting time. Without the struts in place you will get no better of an understanding on what your suspension is doing. This might be true for those custom making a solid axle with a 3 or 4 link suspension. What is your intent with this?
 

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with the strut in place how will you get the tire against the bump stop to know where the tires will sit under full compression ? Sure you can drive the rig somewhere and flex the suspension to its max
Take notes and mark where things rub
Drive back to your house
Pull the tire and trim where it was rubbing
Put the tire back on
Drive back to your flex spot to see if it’s still clearing
Then repeat that process untill everything is clearing .

I find it easier to pull the strut and cycle the suspension in the garage but to each is their own .
 

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Some people are perfectly happy going by Lift manufacturers and the internets recommendation on what it takes to fit a tire on a vehicle, Some people have the skills and knowledge to question why it takes X amount of lift to get x tire to fit on there and go against the norm and figure out how to fit a larger tire with absolutely minimal lift.
 

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That's not what I meant to imply. I guess the question is what are you trying to accomplish by pulling the strut and flexing the suspension? If built right, the bump stops SHOULD hit before the shock bottoms out and before the fender hits the tire. That's the entire point of the lift kit. If you're piecing together a lift, then your method might be the way to go. The OP is simply cranking his suspension set up, regardless of what experts on this forum are suggesting, and then he's cutting the body of his Xterra to simply fit a certain size tire. I get where you're going, but it's not helping this guy. If you're looking for max suspension travel, then your method is legit. There's a difference in "how much can I get my suspension to flex?" and "what can I do just to get an xx" tire to fit."

Not trying to argue Smileyshaun, more of a discussion.
 

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That's not what I meant to imply. I guess the question is what are you trying to accomplish by pulling the strut and flexing the suspension? If built right, the bump stops SHOULD hit before the shock bottoms out and before the fender hits the tire. That's the entire point of the lift kit. If you're piecing together a lift, then your method might be the way to go. The OP is simply cranking his suspension set up, regardless of what experts on this forum are suggesting, and then he's cutting the body of his Xterra to simply fit a certain size tire. I get where you're going, but it's not helping this guy. If you're looking for max suspension travel, then your method is legit. There's a difference in "how much can I get my suspension to flex?" and "what can I do just to get an xx" tire to fit."

Not trying to argue Smileyshaun, more of a discussion.
im not arguing either . He is trimming to fit 35s without doing a titan swap or running a huge lift . If he trims it in the garage and everything clears that’s great until he has the wheel turned and hits a bump . Best case scenario it just rubs a little worse case he either slashes The tire or crumples a fender . You can actually fit a lot of tire on a xterra with almost no lift because the wheel wells are actually quite largeonce You rework the fender liner and do a little massaging on the pinch weld .... ok a lot of massaging but a 35x12.50 will fit with only 2” of lift if you trim right .
 

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Today Friday, I get a call at Noon informing me that my DX4 Recon wheels are arrived at America's Tire.
I finish lunch and drive to the shop with the 4 35s tires loaded in the Xterra and arrive at ~1pm.
When I arrive, a white 90s Toyota pickup is peeling off far away and a dozen America's Tire employees are coming out of the building.
Turns out that pickup was the guy that stole the ex-soon-to-mine DX4 wheels ...
They could not do the tire install, since the wheels were stolen from their shop. :(
 

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Today Friday, I get a call at Noon informing me that my DX4 Recon wheels are arrived at America's Tire.
I finish lunch and drive to the shop with the 4 35s tires loaded in the Xterra and arrive at ~1pm.
When I arrive, a white 90s Toyota pickup is peeling off far away and a dozen America's Tire employees are coming out of the building.
Turns out that pickup was the guy that stole the ex-soon-to-mine DX4 wheels ...
They could not do the tire install, since the wheels were stolen from their shop. :(
Sorry to hear this @GED! Hopefully the replacement set comes in soon; DX4 still has stock available.
 

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Today Friday, I get a call at Noon informing me that my DX4 Recon wheels are arrived at America's Tire.
I finish lunch and drive to the shop with the 4 35s tires loaded in the Xterra and arrive at ~1pm.
When I arrive, a white 90s Toyota pickup is peeling off far away and a dozen America's Tire employees are coming out of the building.
Turns out that pickup was the guy that stole the ex-soon-to-mine DX4 wheels ...
They could not do the tire install, since the wheels were stolen from their shop. :(
I don’t know how I missed this.... what came of it?
 

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The next week, America's Tires ( @Discount Tire ) had received a second set of 4 DX4 wheels, and I got my 4 wheels and 5 Tire pressure sensors installed and working:
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Looking Good (with Hefty Bumper for the spare):
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I have not yet trimmed my front fender liners (todo), and I am driving without front liners for now.

On everyday street driving, no rubbing and car feels surprinsingly great.
I was expecting some power loss (acceleration or braking) and harder steering,
but I'm happy to report that I am not feeling it (yet).

However, when I push it (on a ramp for maximum flex), it does rub :( in the rear:
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@AlbatrossCafe I hear you on the 1" body lift, but I will go the 2" body lift from Nisstec route probably as my Hefty rear bumper is pre-drilled / pre-built for no-BL or 2" BL.
I also need to find out what to do with the front ARB bumper, it does NOT seem to have provisions for a body lift, and change roof rack as this one is too tall for a 2" BL and fitting in my garage.
 

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Those look great. I think the skinniness pairs well with the reduced offset of the wheels by not having them stick out so far. Can you get a pick straight on from the front/back so I can see the tire width?

And fineeeeee get your 2" BL. It only makes sense to not have to spend another $1000 getting new bumper brackets & rock sliders ;)
 

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Those look great. I think the skinniness pairs well with the reduced offset of the wheels by not having them stick out so far. Can you get a pick straight on from the front/back so I can see the tire width?
Here you go:
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Compared to the 33s on OEM wheels, the Kenda tires on DX4 bulge out by ~1 inch more.
They have two particularities:
  • they have a tick lip at the bead where they mount, protecting the rim.
  • they have a strange deep grove on the sidewall which I guess is meant to help the tire flex and enlarge its top portion tread when pressure is low for off-road.
Let me know if you want more angles.
 

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How is the weight of the tires? Compared to your K02 from before
Oh, that was a gym workout question... :oops:

BFG website list the ~33" LT285/75R16 KO2 with a tire weight of ~59lbs, and a brand new tread depth of 15/32nds.
Kenda website list the 35" x 10.50 R17 R/T with a tire weight of XX?, and a brand new tread depth of 19/32nds.

Bear in mind that my BFG AT KO2 33" are used with ~11/32nds (~75% tread depth left) showing:
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And on the bathroom scale... drum roll....
The OEM alloy wheel with the 33" BFG KO2 25% used weights 85.6 lbs.
The DX4 recon with a 35" Kenda Klever 0% used weights 99.8 lbs, aka ~14 lbs ( 16% ) more.

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While I was doing strength training carrying tires, I also weighted the used spare BFG AT KO2 on its steel wheel for 87lbs. ;)
 
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