[Catalyst]

Ok choices are necessary in life, so here is one that should help my X life out:

What lift should i get? Basically i want about 2-3 in and around the same ride, but i dont want spacers b/c of the problem with the UCA's. So do i go Daystar/AC/anything else im not finding? And where can i find the Daystar lift if it's worth it? ik AC website. So any input would be great.

 

[Glucola]

If want to lift the truck and level it out then you'll have to go with shackles. Installing the AAL will give you a 2.5" lift and the current stance of the truck.

 

[kokopop]

I am getting the shackle lift for father's day. I figure I could always upgrade for not much cost later.

Also, I think after tires my next expense will be the TC UCA's.

 

[Guest]

you say you want to avoid using a spacer, but then you ask where you can find the daystar kit. just fyi, the daystar kit uses a spacer. if you want to avoid any issues go with the AC package all the way, coils and shackles. no issues at all with that combination.

 

[mtdewmike]

I'm on the same boat. I'm not sure which lift I should go with - AC, Calmini or Daystar.

 

[Xperience]

yes same thing here. I'm new to the offroading scene and I'd like to know if lifting the truck is much of a PITA if you use a good kit like you seemed to mention (AC, Calmini, etc.).

 

[yobuck]

I'm in the same boat... i want to be able to put 285/70/17's on my stock SE rims, and get the maximum lift with minimal problems, I don't really care if the truck is "even" front and back, If it comes stock with back taller, then I'd rather leave the back taller, so if AC's coils and AC's AAL will keep it even I think I'd rather go route. Unless the more experienced guys have a reason (other then looks) for making the truck even? Also I do not plan on getting a new bumper, front or back. i want to keep all the "safety" peices on my X factory. So will almost 33's even work with stock bumber? Anyone on the board have 285/70/17's on stock SE rims? Or should i get the 265/70/17's and make it like almost 32's? and the last question here.... does the coils and AAL or Shackles void the factory warrenty? the nissan dealer dudes told me any sus. mods would void the warrenty??

-Buck

 

[Muzikman]

You should be able to fit 285/70r17 with just minor rubbing. You might have to remold the plastic innerfender. The 265/70r17 will fit without problem. The lift doesn't really help you clear larger tires, it just minimizes the amount of remolding you need to do to the innerfender.

A lift can void the warranty depending on the dealer and what is wrong with the X. Changing the tire size can too. The dealer told me that they might not warranty another blow front diff because I have 285's on it.

 

[8th Man]

I'm in the same boat... i want to be able to put 285/70/17's on my stock SE rims, and get the maximum lift with minimal problems, I don't really care if the truck is "even" front and back, If it comes stock with back taller, then I'd rather leave the back taller, so if AC's coils and AC's AAL will keep it even I think I'd rather go route. Unless the more experienced guys have a reason (other then looks) for making the truck even? Also I do not plan on getting a new bumper, front or back. i want to keep all the "safety" peices on my X factory. So will almost 33's even work with stock bumber? Anyone on the board have 285/70/17's on stock SE rims? Or should i get the 265/70/17's and make it like almost 32's? and the last question here.... does the coils and AAL or Shackles void the factory warrenty? the nissan dealer dudes told me any sus. mods would void the warrenty??

-Buck

Presently, I'm running AC's front coils and AC's rear shackles. You'll get 2.5" lift at the front with a stock bumper and the shackles will raise the rear 1.5". The rear shackles will level out the truck with this lift. This is good for off roading as you'll get better weight distribution. With this setup, you should expect a little more rear bite as you have a bit more weight riding on the rear tires (in theory...). Also, I'm running BFG AT 285/75/16 (33") with great results.

 

[yobuck]

Thanks for the quick responses! Now I have to rethink what I want vs. what I need... I really haven't been offroading that much in recent years, I love the looks of a raised X and 33', but I also have the worst luck in the world, I'd be the guy that would NEED the warrenty!! The finance guy at the Nissan lot where i bought my X told me that Nissan had a lift?? i've never seen or heard of it, but he said that the one from nissan is the only one that would not void the warranty?? I'm not sure, so don't quote me on that, I do not trust/believe anything someone at a dealership says And back to the lift, it seems that the coils are better for the guys with heavy equip. upfront, but would the spacers be that bad for someone one with stock front end? I mean as far as safe and stuff? It just looks easier to put that on, then to swap out the coils. just thinking price, Calmini spacers and shackels = like 230 bones, compaired to almost 400 for the AC coils and shackles, then it looks like you'd have to get the coils swapped at a shop, so another 100 = 500.... again i guess it goes back to needs vs. wants... I probably won't be doing any hard core crawling, but fun more "recreational" offroading.... decisions, decisions....

Thanks again everyone.

 

[Glucola]

05XOR,

No running that SL will not void your waranty unless that specific part was the cause of the failure and the dealership would have to be able to prove it in writing.

 

[Muzikman]

05XOR,

No running that SL will not void your waranty unless that specific part was the cause of the failure and the dealership would have to be able to prove it in writing.

The problem is, unless you want to draw it out in court, no they do not.

At least not in PA. The laws might change from state to state.

 

[yobuck]

What about going with the spacers and shackles, and if you ever do need warranty work, just swap the stock ones back on? plus just how bad is the "coil bucket issue" with spacers? are there bump stops or something like that Timbren Bump Stop, that would fix this? I'm still stuck on price vs. ease of install and removal for warranty work (if needed)... plus would 265/70/17's look too small with a lift? isn't that the same size as the OffRoad package tire, in height? almost 32'? All i know is i hate my stock tires on the 17's b/c their is not enough rubber there, and I would much rather find some Offroad stock 16's to buy, but not new. So if anyone knows of anyone that would want to trade SE 17 x 7.5 rims for the Offraod 16x7 ones, let me know. I have 3.5k miles on them...

 

[Glucola]

05XOR,

No running that SL will not void your waranty unless that specific part was the cause of the failure and the dealership would have to be able to prove it in writing.

The problem is, unless you want to draw it out in court, no they do not.

At least not in PA. The laws might change from state to state.

True but I'm going off of the Federal law for warranty.

Get it in Writing

If a dealership denies warranty coverage, they should be willing to do so in writing. Have the dealer describe the failure which is causing your problem AND how the dealer believes the aftermarket product installed is responsible for the problem. Keep an accurate log of all contacts and correspondence in addressing the warranty denial.

Taken from but will it void my warranty?.

 

[yobuck]

Dan you motivate me!! That is some good info. Thanks for your investigation on this. It's settled, I'm gonna get a lift and hope for the best. So I'm guessing the AC coils and shackles will be the best route (unless someone answers my above question about the coil bucket issue and how bad or not bad it is, i mean as far as safety and breaking things or not breaking them. Is it only an annoyence? or is doing damage? Thanks again for helping me get up to speed quick.

 

[JasonK06X]

Anyone have any pics of an Xterra with a spacer lift and stock size tires?

I'd love to lift the wifes grocery getter with a daystar, but I'm not sure how that would look with the 265/70-16 tires. Maybe I should wait until the tire wear out?

Also, how bad is the knocking on the uca with the daystar lift on an urban assault vehicle? :rofl:

 

[Offroad]

plus just how bad is the "coil bucket issue" with spacers? are there bump stops or something like that Timbren Bump Stop, that would fix this?

Don't know how bad it is but do know that timbrens won't solve the problem, they limit upward travel and the problem with the spacers and coil bucket is with downtravel.

 

[EBBridges]

Don't know how bad it is but do know that timbrens won't solve the problem, they limit upward travel and the problem with the spacers and coil bucket is with downtravel.

If you stay with the stock upper Arm why wouldn't you have the same issue with coil bucket contact regardless of whether you lift the front suspension with a spacer or a longer/stiffer coil? Either way you are lifting the vehicle by using up some of its available down-travel and moving the A-arm closer to the coil bucket.

I'm debating which lift to purchase for my vehicle as well, and I've been looking for some real data that shows me the coilover lift option is any better than spacer lifts when retaining the stock upper A-arm....
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[germandude890]

Retaining the stock a arm, a coilover would be able to be configured in such a way as to minimize CBC. Also it would help with sway if you removed the sway bars. And over all road comfort because the shocks are just better quality. Still you would have CBC and in my opinion it is not worth it. My advice is to do it right the first time. Wish I would have known that before I bought and sold and lost money on all my other lift parts.


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[Snowtrout]

Retaining the stock a arm, a coilover would be able to be configured in such a way as to minimize CBC. Also it would help with sway if you removed the sway bars. And over all road comfort because the shocks are just better quality. Still you would have CBC and in my opinion it is not worth it. My advice is to do it right the first time. Wish I would have known that before I bought and sold and lost money on all my other lift parts.


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Unless you don't want any lift and are trying to get back to stock height with added on weight. But even then there are cheaper ways than coil overs.