Right now I have a 2005 2wd Nissan Frontier. And i am planning on switching to an 4x4 s model. I would buy the off road model but there is no way that i can afford it. My frontier has a rear locker, so 2 wheel drive. And the x has 4x4 but with open diffs. So techqunequly also 2 wheel drive. I was wondering if iam going to notice significant differance off road. and those of you that have the s or se model how often do you have only 2 wheels spinning. Cuz in my truck withougt the locker on its basicily 1 wheel drive most of the time. Thank you very much for any feedback.
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I have the 4x4 S model (open diff). I love it. I wouldnt say that i am a hardcore offroader but i have done a few crazy things with it. I have never had a time when i wished i had a locking rear diff. It is a real solid off road vehicle. The guys with the 'off road' model will probably beg to differ, but then agian they probably havent driven a model without the locker.
I can only speak for myself but i am glad that i got the S model.
On a side note, if you think you might need a locker.... then you probably do!!
I can only speak for myself but i am glad that i got the S model.
On a side note, if you think you might need a locker.... then you probably do!!
I have the OR 4X; my buddy has the S. So I've driven both. We go offroad most weekends and take things to the limit. There's no doubt that my OR can go places and get unstuck in situations that his can't.
For example: My passenger rear tire is in a deep rut and my front driver's side tire is in the air. Therefore, there's no traction in the front because all the traction is going to the wheel in the air. And one rear tire is slipping like crazy in the rut. Locker to the rescue. It gives that driver's side rear tire the bite to get me out. Same story hung up on a rock. Same basic story climbing steep, off-camber, low traction grades.
The question is of course how often you find yourself in these kinds of situations and what you can afford. But if you wheel hard, a rear locker is very valuable.
For example: My passenger rear tire is in a deep rut and my front driver's side tire is in the air. Therefore, there's no traction in the front because all the traction is going to the wheel in the air. And one rear tire is slipping like crazy in the rut. Locker to the rescue. It gives that driver's side rear tire the bite to get me out. Same story hung up on a rock. Same basic story climbing steep, off-camber, low traction grades.
The question is of course how often you find yourself in these kinds of situations and what you can afford. But if you wheel hard, a rear locker is very valuable.
I have an '06 X 4x4.. and I have gone everywhere my brother has gone with his Rubicon.. I love it.. yes.. the OR model would be nice.. but for 21,000 for a brand new X model... couldnt go wrong! I have yet to really NEED the locker.. I am sure I will run into something one of these days.. but made it through a "7" rated trail.. no stickups.. and that is with the cheapo standard AT tires...
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I have used my locker quite a few times because of snow/ice. I have never needed it off-road, but I don't really get into too many spots where it would be absolutely essential.
One thing to consider, if you plan on doing any type of real build-up of the X, you are wasting money getting the OR edition. Why pay extra for things you're going to replace?
One thing to consider, if you plan on doing any type of real build-up of the X, you are wasting money getting the OR edition. Why pay extra for things you're going to replace?
Then your brother is not pushing the limits of even a stock Rubi.Xd'myJeep said:
Not to knock the X (I do own one after all) but that Rubi should be able to run circles around a stock X. Now I have no idea what a 7 rated trail means. It seems that each place / area uses a different rating system.
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True, but SOMEONE is going to make an aftermarket rear locker for the X....someday... maybe.....
And if it's ARB, then you are going to have over $1000 tired up into it any way. So for the additional $1000 you are getting the locker today. By the sounds of it though, I wouldn't count on an aftermarket locker (front or rear) for the new X any time soon.TwinCitiesX said:
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Really? I figured that it was going to be out fairly soon. Of course I haven't kept up on that issue, since I don't have a need to.
I'm building my OR up big time: SLR lift, new shocks, jounce stops, the works. But I bet I have 100,000 mi. on the X before the aftermarket locker comes out. To me, it's worth the extra couple thou. My friend, who bought an S at the same time as I got my OR, wishes he'd gone OR.
But that's because we go offroad all the time and get into tight spots. Hung up, etc. Otherwise, it probably is an expensive waste. After all, you're gonna lose the bilsteins as soon as you begin seriously modding. And they're worth hundreds, not thousands. It's all about the locker.
But that's because we go offroad all the time and get into tight spots. Hung up, etc. Otherwise, it probably is an expensive waste. After all, you're gonna lose the bilsteins as soon as you begin seriously modding. And they're worth hundreds, not thousands. It's all about the locker.
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I know several vendors are taking pre-orders on big lifts but I have not heard of anyone with an SLR on their X yet. If you get it let us know and post lots of pix.
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Here are some picts of the SLR. However, I believe this is the test X.
2 Things I notice:
1 - The Cross Member is a funky design or looks so from the pict. Not sure how a skid plate will mount
2 - The CV boot is leaking
Also, if PB waited for one of these lifts I would be bettin he would have been pissed.
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Here are some picts of the SLR. However, I believe this is the test X.
2 Things I notice:
1 - The Cross Member is a funky design or looks so from the pict. Not sure how a skid plate will mount
2 - The CV boot is leaking
Also, if PB waited for one of these lifts I would be bettin he would have been pissed.
When I emailed them about the front diff being so vulnerable with their lift and if they would include a skid plate this is the answer I got:kokopop said:
"The Front diff is lowered about 4� in order to maintain proper CV angles. Yes we will be making a skidplate for the front diff, it won’t be very expensive and will be part of the system."
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