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Order date: May 27, 2020

Full kit in my possession: June 24, 2020

Installation date: July 15 and 16, 2020

Details on my X:

2011 Nissan X (X is the trim)
95,000 miles (at time of install)
Spacer lift on top of coilover and shackle with stock shocks
33' tires
Plate bumper, 9,000 winch
Custom roof rack

Contents of kit:
PRG aluminum ext length coilovers w/Eibach springs (was supposed to be 700lb but received 600lb)
SPC Frontier/Xterra upper a-arms
PRG e-11 double AAL
Shims
Bilstein 5125 extended rear shocks
Xterra ubolts

Ordering process notes:
I initially wanted to get an "advanced coilover package" as advertised by PRG with the Radflo coilovers. However, after speaking with Greg on the phone I was convinced to save some change and try out the world's greatest new thing that no one had discovered yet. The only real issue I had was once the parts arrived, they were a few weeks (about a month) after I was told they would arrive, but that is to be expected with the small mom and pop shops that serve our niche, but I had the wrong spring rate installed on my coilover. I asked for 700lb spring rate, I got 600lb springs. Greg promised he'd make it right... but apparently the springs have COVID-19 or something.

Oh, you'll see below one of my springs also had some of the powder coat chipped off.... not cool buddy, these are supposed to be COVID-19 free AND new.



Ease of install
I mean, if you've ever done coilovers before it is pretty straight forward. My compressor had been giving me grief so I took advantage of a sale at the Home Depot and purchased a set of Milwaukee M18 Fuel tools that included a 3/8 impact wrench. It made cake of everything, total front and back it took 1 and 3/4 of the standard batteries. The only delay was removing the rear fastener on the driver side UCA, but there's plenty on here of how to get around that.

It took two days because (like 2 hours each) to complete the install in front and rear because well its southern Nevada and its hot. Nearly impossible to work past 9am on a cooler day.

Ride quality:
I've never driven a stock Xterra, mine had the spacer lift when I purchased it in 2017 at around 70,000 miles on the clock if I recall correctly. There is a particular back road that I take probably 7-8 times a year that "shortcuts" to some of my favorite nearby camping spots. It's a gravel road that sometimes is maintained, mostly it's not but is good enough to do 50-60mph typically.

In May, probably two or three days prior to ordering the kit I took this gravel road and couldn't do more than 30-35mph without feeling like I was going to flip over. It was because whatever life was left in my stock shock, was gone. This is what it and my UCA ball joint looked like and one of the exploded shocks.




In case you don't know what the shocks look like installed (I think Greg has a better pic on his website):



Needless to say, it doesn't feel bad after taking the sa,e backroad last week. I was able to do 65-70mph and pushed my luck at 75mph a few times and the ride felt very good and controllable. When I got home the shocks weren't exploded, big plus.

After install notes:
I had a horrible front rake up front because of the incorrect spring rates. After some discussion via email and phone with Greg, purchased the correct scanner wrench and I cranked the preload on the springs to compensate for the extra weight. I then tested with some big dips in my neighborhood by hitting them at 35-45mph and the shocks felt even better. Originally I feared the rear was too stiff, turns out the coil springs needed adjustment.

For slow technical stuff, they do awesome as well. And now with the aftermarket UCA, no coil bucket contact. I did not grind anything away.

Would I buy again?
Sure, it saved some dough. Next time, I'm probably getting Radflo because I want more Instagram likes.

Note: there is some sarcasm in this post. Essentially, I just make light of stuff. I’m very happy with my current setup.
 

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Happy to hear you had a positive experience with the PRG coilovers when it was all said and done.

When I ordered my Radflo's from Greg, they just had just released that product but I was hesitant to pull a trigger. I'm sure this review will help subsequent buyers have confidence.

I might have to head down to the garage to ensure I got the proper spring rate, I never did check!
 

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For slow technical stuff, they do awesome as well. And now with the aftermarket UCA, no coil bucket contact. I did not grind anything away.
Be careful with that ball joint. Those SPC arms require grinding for the vast majority of X's that they are installed on. It doesn't look like your coilbucket was ground previously, so you may have gotten lucky with your alignment that it does not contact. However, as things get jostled, or perhaps at the time of your next alignment, you may find that it starts to get cut.
 

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Be careful with that ball joint. Those SPC arms require grinding for the vast majority of X's that they are installed on. It doesn't look like your coilbucket was ground previously, so you may have gotten lucky with your alignment that it does not contact. However, as things get jostled, or perhaps at the time of your next alignment, you may find that it starts to get cut.
Yes sir. I’ve kept a close eye even at full droop and flex, no contact. I’ve been keeping an eye though for sure.


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Glad to see someone else enjoying these coilovers. One of the dials on mine was a little loose. I snugged it up with a small flat head screwdriver. No problems since. I'm using 3 for daily driving and 5 for off roading. Which settings do you use?
 

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Glad to see someone else enjoying these coilovers. One of the dials on mine was a little loose. I snugged it up with a small flat head screwdriver. No problems since. I'm using 3 for daily driving and 5 for off roading. Which settings do you use?
I just left them on 3, does it really make that much of a difference?
 

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Update Feb 2021

I was on a gravel road today when suddenly I heard a thump and I thought I somehow blew a tire.

Turns out it was much worse. Not sure how exactly this happened. I’ve blown shocks and seen them go before too, but it’s always been the seals. This was maybe my fifth time out with this set up. I do use my truck, but I don’t abuse it. I run out of guts before truck every time.

It also took out the abs sensor on this side.

I’m going to give myself a cooling off period to try and figure out what happened. I’d hate to either say something I’ll regret or is at least in part untrue. Too much ugly in the world to add more. Stay safe my friends.

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I don't think you need take time to compose yourself, that's a catastrophic failure and you have the right to be mad. I've seen 5100s do something similar but not quite come apart like that. I suppose it would be difficult for Greg to test every single thing he sells and he probably relies on the quality control of the company that produces the strut, so I don't think he'd be the one to blame for the failure. However, hopefully he'll make this right and fix this for you. Additionally, he needs to get in touch with everyone who's purchased them and let them know about this, as well as pulling these from his website. The road you're on doesn't look too bad, the 5100 I saw blow up was on some extreme washboard. This is material failure and you can clearly see it is cheap cast metal, I'd expect the others he sold to do the same.
 

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I'm going to DL these, if that's okay, and post them on Xterra Crew and the Frontier page on FB, as well as Reddit, if that's okay.
 

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I'm going to DL these, if that's okay, and post them on Xterra Crew and the Frontier page on FB, as well as Reddit, if that's okay.
Send me links to those sites, I'd like to follow what others might have to say. You can PM if you'd like too.
 

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It’s hard to tell from the photos what the point of failure was... but it is catastrophic indeed.

Update us when you determine what exactly failed.
 

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It’s hard to tell from the photos what the point of failure was... but it is catastrophic indeed.

Update us when you determine what exactly failed.
I need to get an emissions inspection done so I ordered a cheap set of assembled struts plus a spacer off Amazon tonight. That should let me limp around for a bit.

The weird thing is that I had noticed the X’s nose taking a dive in the driveway over the last few days but attributed it to being parked on a slope in an area of the driveway that it usually doesn’t sit. Now that I’m looking at it, the driver side is getting ready to go too but the passenger side ate the dust first.
 

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Took the tire off this morning to more thoroughly inspect and confirmed that all parts are intact, the only thing to take a major dump was the shock taking an ABS sensor along for the ride.

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DAYUM!!! That's impressively terrible! Do you know how fast you were going when it happened, or if it happened when you hit a pothole or something?

Also I'm super curious... are you able to drive it around while it is riding on the bump stop like that or are there clearance issues somewhere? haha. Either way, that's rough. Coilovers experience mostly up & down forces. Can't imagine that it should sheer sideways so easily.
 

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Send me links to those sites, I'd like to follow what others might have to say. You can PM if you'd like too.
My Tapatalk app is glitching out, so I wasn't able to download the pics and post them on FB. The Xterra page was talking about TheXterraCrew and the Frontier page is NISSAN FRONTIER CLUB. There is straight on shot of an Xterra as the group photo for X Crew and there's an updated Frontier as the banner photo for Frontier Club.
 

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DAYUM!!! That's impressively terrible! Do you know how fast you were going when it happened, or if it happened when you hit a pothole or something?

Also I'm super curious... are you able to drive it around while it is riding on the bump stop like that or are there clearance issues somewhere? haha. Either way, that's rough. Coilovers experience mostly up & down forces. Can't imagine that it should sheer sideways so easily.
Thankfully I hadn't gotten to the moderate rocky crawly section quite yet, still on a mostly graded gravel road. I was going maybe 10-15 miles an hour? I limped it back slowly but surely to the launching area for the side by sides and waited for a tow. It was a good time, thankfully I had friends there to make light of it.
 

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I’m going to give myself a cooling off period to try and figure out what happened. I’d hate to either say something I’ll regret or is at least in part untrue. Too much ugly in the world to add more. Stay safe my friends.
I called Greg and let me him know what happened today. I referenced an e-mail that I composed and sent from the tow truck on Sunday night, but apparently it never left my phone (it makes sense as service was spotty in the area). I then actually sent them over to him.

He agreed that this should not have happened and pointed to a design issue with the top hat. He will be sending out a replacement set with the corrected top hat design as well an ABS sensor in good faith.

Once the new set arrives, I will provide an update as well as try to make sense of the corrected design.
 
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