[xtatik]

Had a lengthy talk with Greg the other day regarding a new UCA he has designed. Essentially the same, but using heims instead of urethane bushings and powder-coated black. The first of them should be ready in a couple weeks and I'm first in line I believe. I'll post pics once they're on.

 

[vman]

What is the advantage of the new product?

 

[willgr1]

so are these UCAs greg is making and going to be selling as opposed to the TCs he's been selling??

 

[Mark]

Well thats good news. I was going to paint mine when i got em anyways. I keep playing phone tag with greg. Been trying to order the control amrs and rear shocks. My coil overs are sitting in the garage waiting!

 

[Muzikman]

Hmmm, I really have to ask what the advantage would be of a heim joint on a part that has only radial movement. Polly bushings are cheap to replace if needed, heim's are not.

Did he give you the pro's of this setup?

 

[xtatik]

I don't want to speak out of turn and Greg can certainly answer for his products better than I can.
I don't think there is a significant advantage other than the heims being able compensate better for inaccuracies in geometry at the pivot point. With any urethane or rubber bushing that is removed after service you will usually see uneven wear patterns. Urethane bushings compensate by compressing.
Also, these new UCA's will have a 7/8" uni-ball that will offer more camber alignment, and being smaller will allow more up-travel (stuff).

 

[Muzikman]

With an IFS UCA there should not be any inaccuracies in geometry though.

 

[Mark]

Jason remember syndicates tc uca blow up though............was it because of his bushings or the bolts? Wouldnt the new joint help with that? I know the lower control arms have alot more movement in them than i expected. I had mine apart this past weekend fixing some bent steel from ECXC. ALL BETTER NOW THOUGH! Pays to have a friend at a body shop.

 

[Muzikman]

His was bolt related. He lost the bolt. That would happen no matter what type of joint you have there.

I would be willing to bet the use of the heim is for ease of build. It's easier to bend pipe and weld in a threaded bung.

Again, not that it's bad, I just don't see the point.

On your LCA, what type of play do you have? I mean it should be loose enough not to bind, but it shouldn't be sloppy.

 

[Mark]

I knew you were going to ask me about that. Its not sloppy. Im just saying that with the type of bushings in the lca's that they have movement. More than someone might think until they take something apart.

 

[Muzikman]

I have not dropped my LCA's yet, but my guess is that they are rubber bushings with metal sleeves. My guess is the play is between the bolt and the sleeve and not the sleeve and the bushing. Or the play is in the rubber it's self.

 

[Mark]

So is there any price difference in these uca's?

 

[Creek]

Same price. I just ordered my whole setup from Greg. Great guy!!! I went with his UCA's, so I let everyone know what's up when it gets here in 2 weeks. Yes, I will post pics when i get them.

 

[Creek]

Oh, and supposedly, you don't need new cam bolts with these...we'll see

 

[Mark]

Cam bolts with what exactly? Its an upper control arm not the lower. And id get em.

 

[Muzikman]

You don't need LCA cam bolts because you can adjust the heim's in and out to adjust your camber.

 

[SpcTroy]

lol, look http://2007postcards.com/funvideo.html

have you guys gotten your UCAs yet?

 

[IZVERG]

What were the price on PRG's UCAs?

 

[Creek]

haven't gotten them yet, hopefully by the beginning of next week??? he said they would be shipping toward the end of this week. same price as the tc uca's

 

[IZVERG]

So same price...does Greg stand more behind these or the TCs or the same?