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Ok, here's the deal.

I'm using spacers w/ my new wheels, not that it should matter.

I've taken my wheels of plenty of times now for working on my X and have had no problems. However, today I go out an try taking of a rear wheel. Two of the lug nuts are so tight--probably crossed-- that I end up snapping the lugs off. I try a front tire. Same thing; I snap two lugs off while trying to get the nuts off.

Now, I always put the lugs on as far as I can by hand so that I don't strip them. So, they were not stripped when I put them on.

What would cause them to be that tight or stripped by just being on the there? Did I over-tighten or under-tighten the lug nuts? To hot outside?

I didn't want to try the remaining tires at this point. Who knows what problem they have.
 

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Did you tighten them originally to torque specs? And then re-check the lug nuts after driving a bit?

If not hey could have loosened a bit then gotten jammed by the wheel moving...
 

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RogueClimber said:
Did you tighten them originally to torque specs? And then re-check the lug nuts after driving a bit?

If not hey could have loosened a bit then gotten jammed by the wheel moving...

No. I just tighten via a cross lug wrench. Tightened until they are really snug.
 
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the lugs should all be torqued to 120 ft lbs. then drive for a while and retorqued. with spacers you have more chance of coming loose. tightening till they are snug is probably not a good indicator of proper torque. the fronts can be a pain since the wheels have to be off to torque the spacers onto the hubs. you can start the truck and engage 4lo before jacking it up. turn off the truck with transfer case engaged and in first gear, then jack up and remove wheels. this keeps the fronts from spinning when you torque them. the rear is easier with help from the E-brake.
 

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I plan on switching my studs on the spacers to some Moroso or equivilant studs in the future. Plus I'll be using lock tite on the factory to adapter studs.
 

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Thanks for the help guys.

I'll definately get a torque wrench and try the lock tight, too.

Not counting the ones that are messed up, it does seem a lot of the time the lug nuts come off easier than I put them on. That is, I seem to need less muscle to take them off than I used to put them on.
 

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Even the stock ones are like that. I've already had a few stock acorns fly off because they loosened up. Also the rear studs are showing signs of real high heat exposure. When I ran the thread die over them while grinding the tips down there was a lot of squeeking while with the front nothing. That and the rust and corrosion on the threadson the rear. I have a feeling stud replacement might be a good maintenence practice around 60,000 miles. You can get a decent torque wrench thru Harbor Freight that won't set you back a whole lot. That's where I got mine.
 

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i just had the same thing (well kinda) happen on my jeep.
i took it in to get the tires rotated and balanced and the schmuck didnt tighten my lugs at all on the right rear. i hop in and get to the edge of the parking lot and realize my wheel is about to come off.
i took it back and the guy just slamed 'em up tight with the impact gun.
i tried to take the lugs off when i got home to access the damage and snaped the stud right off. they replaced all the studs and lugs they screwed up. (they crossthreaded several on each wheel!!)

moral of the story. rotate your own tires or stand there and watch them like a hawk when they're working on thier your truck!
 

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I'd say you got them way way way too tight. Once you do that you have ruined the "Clamping force" of the threads on the lugs and you will need to replace them all for safety reasons. New Nuts also.

Put them on, and use a torque wrench only to tighten to spec. Always go to that spec and re check after 50 then 100 miles. There is also a special sequence you should tighten them in. (Not one after another.)

You can do a search on the net for wheel manufactures and find that what I say is true. I had a Truck stop over tighten mine when installing brakes, 1 hour latter the wheel came off. I had to prove to owner all this when I did, he paid the bill.

MC
 

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USMC XTERRA said:
I had a Truck stop over tighten mine when installing brakes, 1 hour latter the wheel came off. I had to prove to owner all this when I did, he paid the bill.

MC
You ever have a vendor not screw you over??? :geek:
 
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