So I have been torn between a CarPc/Puter and one of the Avic series from pioneer, I have never owned anything but pioneer stereos. I did a lot of research on the Avic's, and they just don;t seem to function how consumers like us want them to. Between by passing motion sensors etc... I thought the 30 G HDD feature was finally here, I anticipated it and to find that you literally have to "rip" your CD's to it I though "what a waist". It seems like you find exactly what you want and then find out this one little thing about it kills the whole product. Has anyone seen MP3car.com's new Infill G4? It's a fully functionable carputer/nav/HDD/mp3/DVD/back up cam etc... It also has front side USB 2.0. System. I believe I will purchase this very soon, however the price is up there about 2,000. Comparing it to the MSRP of the AVIC Z2 thats not that bad when you see what your getting. I will search for one and when I install I will post with pics and a review.