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It's hard to spend money on a no see Mod, but this one is well worth it in handling!

I bought it to increase towing stability as I tow a dozer at times and a boat a lot.

The handling was a gigantic BONUS! Hindsight I'd do it just for that!

PS: I tried AIR LIFT Spring kit, don't waste your money it limits Droop!
Timbren don't!

EDIT 05 of 2007 Well here is my best example of Timbrens in action, this is a part where Autozone Bumpstops won't hold up. But you can clearly see and hear the comment from bystanders who are surprised I did not bottom out, Daystar Spacers, factory Shocks with 35K miles on em and Timbren bumpstops. Click link and play.


.......... And people act like they have no use wheeling, I won't wheel without them.

What it is and what it does can be found here: Home - Timbren Industries Inc. Suspension Products
In short, for me, increased towing capability, much much better handling without.

Rear sway bar installed, and Cure for nose diving front end with winch and winch bumper. PLUS, if you haul things on a roof rack on top, you WILL notice more stability with this mod for sure!!!

Restored all handling characteristics that the 2.5 inch lift took away. F&R Totally!

Where purchased: http://www.truckspring.com/
Vendor gets A+++ Good e mail contact, read notes on Internet order,
went out of way to make sure I got the right kit with spacers for rear.
Good ship notification and quick ship!

Kits cost $154.00 each. $309.00 for both FREE SHIP special.

Front Kit is Timbren part no NF-1004A (You must drill out hole to 1/2 in.)
Rear kit is a Jeep kit, JRC01 With a Spacer (Shown) Fits perfect!

Lets start with front, before install, really no problems. But after install a really noticed much more stable front end especially on corners and under heavy braking. I'd say this kit is a MUST if you install a Winch bumper that really does have a winch in it.

Here is a pic of Front old and new. (Parts)


Jack up vehicle, support, 1/2 in deep socket to remove old bumpstop.
You must then drill hole on lower Control Arm out to 1/2 in. with a drill.
Put washer on bolt, install in hole, add washer on top of LCA then Timbren Bump stop, tighten. 10 min Max, no need to remove wheel.

Before front, old stuff it almost looks like pure metal but it is rubber.


New installed on front. Notice the clearance now, any tip and Timbren takes over! This is taken with weight of vehicle on the suspension. It is
riding just as Timbren instructions say. Even can rest on LCA.


Rear old and new parts.


No need to remove wheels but makes it a lot easier.

Jack it up, Support, remove wheel. Remove old bumpstop with a 9/16 socket
Clean the area, holding Timbren in your hand, offset goes outboard (If you install it wrong, it will hit top of U bolts when compressed, it should fall between them.) Install bolts, snug them, now whack Timbren to rearmost position. Tighten. Check alignment from side and rear, install tire and check for proper clearances.

After rear from rear.


What's left over & what it took to do the front and rear install.


After a very rugged test drive (lots of fun) Panic stops, Curves, Incline walls, drop offs, parking lot tricks, pushing to the max! No noises, silent operation, and outstanding stability for a lifted vehicle!!!! I got my X back!

Thanks for looking. And thanks to Timbren for time on phone and Truckspring.com for extra effort getting me the right kit 1st shot!
If you do the Mod, and I missed something, PM me and I will add.

UPDATE Thanks to B Slater who tried these, (Pictured Below) Autozone Bump stops for front. he said it's a go, he put them on, by looking at them he thought they would not work too stiff, but after an install and a ride, he's impressed, you might be also, It's a cheap try out at $10 and 20 Min to install, I'd imagine you can chop the tops off a bit, but Slater says they work as is! Old parts can be re installed if you don't like it or want more travel for a OR event.


EDIT 06 12 06
Ok I did some flex testing today. Took some pictures, I'll let them explain. But, I'll leave em on when I wheel, Since I sissy wheel. In My "S" Full view of position.


The Extended side.



What they do when they get stuffed.


Ok now you have all the info, you decide. I find it is a perfect solution for all around driving, towing, road, and off road, but not so off road you blow your difffs.

ADDED 10 06 I have over 20K on this MOD flawless would not do without it!

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Thanks for the pics now I don't need to ask how you mounted your MX6's. Mine should be here Mon. :laughing4:
 

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PonyBoy said:
If you have a chance, can u snag a shot of the front compressed?
You can't, that shot where it is almost touching IS with the weight on it. Good question. I should add that to Write up. This is what Timbren says it should look like on front, almost or touching. BIG difference with a SHROCKWORKS BUMPER AND WINCH. It acts like you don't have that weght up there now. Like 1st day I had it AMAZING!

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Thanks for the pics now I don't need to ask how you mounted your MX6's. Mine should be here Mon. :laughing4:
LOL Added bennie shot for ya I guess. The bottom bolt is really tight, I used a Impact wrench. But it fits. Just note that.
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Great write-up and pics MC (I always enjoy your AC incorporation too). I'll likely add these bump stops in the rear at the same time I do my lift. Would you recommend these on the front also for someone that does not have the extra weight from an aftermarket front bumper/winch?
 

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D.B. Cooper said:
Great write-up and pics MC (I always enjoy your AC incorporation too). I'll likely add these bump stops in the rear at the same time I do my lift. Would you recommend these on the front also for someone that does not have the extra weight from an aftermarket front bumper/winch?
LOL My Ac picture board! Man I wish she would re read that e mail and write me an appologetic response so I can quit doing that. But I think they like the attention. LOL

Man I really needed the kuto's!!!!! Had a run of people busting on me here lately. '

Anyhow. I highly recomend this with a lift because it adds SO SO SO much to the stability. If you are lifting, Maybe wait a few days and then put it on so you know what you got! My azz bit a hole in the seat on some turns without this mod! I almost wrecked like 3 times! (No stabilizer bar in rear)

If you do a lift and you have NO aftermarket front bumper. I'd go at least Timbren Rear kit for $154 and then take a trip to Autozone and in the suspension dept you will se some aftermarket bump stops for the front. They are about as Tall as the timbren kit but guess what?
I think it was like $16.00 for the set of 2!!!! WOW!

Someone needs to try that out and let us know. Looks to me like they will fit the front no drilling. With my pictures and directions here, you can do in 1/2 hour or less!

At minimum, Timbren in rear and these aftermarket ones up front. I'll get the parts numbers and post it to THIS as an edit as soon as I see them again.

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eXTra fORt said:
Thanks for the update! Great write-up (again)!
Regards
Hey eXTra fORt, The Timbren Co. is a Canadian Co, And my Parts were fresh out of Canada! Top Shelf stuff! And again, thanks for the Kuto's I needed it!

Sometimes I do all these write ups and wonder if anyone uses the info.

Then today, I was doing a Snork, (Since no one wants to make one for thenewx) And I said: " screw the pictures"., And now I am looking at the work and I say, "I should have taken more pictures."

JUST like here, I take the bullet, I paid $154 for the front and I see something very similar, looks like it will work fine for the front for like $16?? If it does work, and I really think it will you guys save $136.00
I don't think they will hold what Timbrens will as far as weight, But I am positive they will add the stability and Hold up a winch and winch bumper and that's all we need to spend for.

So, while taking the bullet, and the brunt of the expense, I... for the thanks only, I make these reports so others shall $ave.

Again
The Pioneers had arrows in their backs!
I can't wait until I am done doing mods!!!!
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PonyBoy said:
If you have a chance, can u snag a shot of the front compressed?
You can't, that shot where it is almost touching IS with the weight on it. Good question. I should add that to Write up. This is what Timbren says it should look like on front, almost or touching. BIG difference with a SHROCKWORKS BUMPER AND WINCH. It acts like you don't have that weght up there now. Like 1st day I had it AMAZING!

MC
That's with the weight on it, but what's it like if you stuff that front tire up into the wheel well. The stop should compress. I just wonder if it robs any upward travel of the front.
 

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That's with the weight on it, but what's it like if you stuff that front tire up into the wheel well. The stop should compress. I just wonder if it robs any upward travel of the front.
I jacked it up and it did not touch it. It would have to be an in motion on the trail shot to get it to touch and squish. You can tell by the pictures posted that it would limit upward free travel just by the size of the thing compared to the factory one. But you won't catch me taking mine off.

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MC

You have the best right ups!!! Only problem is with all these great mods you do I need to find some money to keep up...

Keep up the great work !!! :cheers:
 

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MCYou have the best right ups!!! Only problem is with all these great mods you do I need to find some money to keep up...
Keep up the great work !!! :cheers:
Hey! It's all about saving my fellow X'ers money that I did not save. Not to mention time! If the Autozone Bump stops for the front work, everyone saves $138 bucks on this mod. Good deal at my expense.


I hope all this info will still be here, long after I fall out.

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I can't wait until I am done doing mods!!!!
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Come on you know it never ends. :toothy7: :toothy7:
 

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Hey MC

Great writeup.

I've got a brand new OR 4x4, and am worried about the rear sagging when I'm towing my motorcycle race trailer (about 2500 lbs with 2 bikes + gear).

THe X is bone stock right now. Should I go with a lift kit? Shackles? Timbrens? All of the above?

Thanks

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I'd call Timbren and find out. I have a Daystar lift and they sent me a kit that had a spacer for the rear. If all you do is tow, All you need is the Timbren kit to do that. No lift needed. I just can't say how good that kit is. I towed my boat with it, sweet sweet sweet! Better braking, no nose dives, and rode as if nothing was back there! Very stable. For what you are towing, you will hardly know it is back there. Especially if you have brakes on trailer. (Nissan recomends them after 200lbs)

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MC,

Is that the actual part number I see there on the white sticker? If so then I might just run by the store and pick them up.
 

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MC,Is that the actual part number I see there on the white sticker? If so then I might just run by the store and pick them up.
Yep! But with an AC lift, you are so stiff up there, you don't need em do ya? I noticed big Diff in handling since Timbren, In Rear, no need now to put the Stabilizer bar back on. Fine like it is. And these keep the front from doing a dip on a heavy brake app as well as make it steady in curves. These are for the Front.

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