[87iroc]

Very interesting.

The 6112 part numbers are confusing.
Some 6112 kits are a lot less than $800?

I have only searched that pn. It says springs are matched to strut to make a matched pair. I found a ‘warranty’ individual strut you could buy but no reference to kit number. I’m really leaning toward pulling trigger on them even though the adult in my head is saying wait and get 2.5 radflos

I just happened to think if you adjusted top hat you can tweak preload on spring to dial in so factory grooves could work. Grrrr. So much intrigued me here.

1)it’s a 2.5 strut with high ratings
2) 650 lb springs(assuming site is right)
3) ability to adjust preload on spring to make grooves work
4)1/2 costish of comparable known coilover
5) it’s different

Cons

1)it’s different
2) non rebuildable
3) close to cost of 2” radflo(I still consider mkii’s an unknown due to time in market) plus nisstec current issues

 

[Ssanders224]

I have only searched that pn. It says springs are matched to strut to make a matched pair. I found a ‘warranty’ individual strut you could buy but no reference to kit number. I’m really leaning toward pulling trigger on them even though the adult in my head is saying wait and get 2.5 radflos

I just happened to think if you adjusted top hat you can tweak preload on spring to dial in so factory grooves could work. Grrrr. So much intrigued me here.

1)it’s a 2.5 strut with high ratings
2) 650 lb springs(assuming site is right)
3) ability to adjust preload on spring to make grooves work
4)1/2 costish of comparable known coilover
5) it’s different

Cons

1)it’s different
2) non rebuildable
3) close to cost of 2” radflo(I still consider mkii’s an unknown due to time in market) plus nisstec current issues

Yea, it's just a little weird.
The 6112 47-255074 is like $495?

It's a shame that Bilstein doesn't have a clear and concise chart somewhere that shows the differences in the PNs. And maybe they do, but I can't find it.

 

[Ssanders224]

I have only searched that pn. It says springs are matched to strut to make a matched pair. I found a ‘warranty’ individual strut you could buy but no reference to kit number. I’m really leaning toward pulling trigger on them even though the adult in my head is saying wait and get 2.5 radflos

I just happened to think if you adjusted top hat you can tweak preload on spring to dial in so factory grooves could work. Grrrr. So much intrigued me here.

1)it’s a 2.5 strut with high ratings
2) 650 lb springs(assuming site is right)
3) ability to adjust preload on spring to make grooves work
4)1/2 costish of comparable known coilover
5) it’s different

Cons

1)it’s different
2) non rebuildable
3) close to cost of 2” radflo(I still consider mkii’s an unknown due to time in market) plus nisstec current issues

Also, I wonder what PN PRG was selling that were too long?.......

I think my Bilstein's are too Long

The T swap 5100s are too long without a custom tophat (ADO/Glamisdude), but then you need more snap ring grooves cut. I was hoping that the 6112s would fit better, but it looks like that's a no-go as well :/. Why would prg sell them as is knowing they are too long?

www.thenewx.org

 

[87iroc]

Also, I wonder what PN PRG was selling that were too long?.......

I think my Bilstein's are too Long

The T swap 5100s are too long without a custom tophat (ADO/Glamisdude), but then you need more snap ring grooves cut. I was hoping that the 6112s would fit better, but it looks like that's a no-go as well :/. Why would prg sell them as is knowing they are too long?

www.thenewx.org

I will research more. I have ability to do what I need for a top hat as long as it’s within reason. I know prg was just selling stock top hats with theirs. I am looking at the lengths and not sure what would be wrong

 

[87iroc]

On the bilstein lower eye hitting on the LCA I found this on ADO's website...

ADO Enhanced Lower Control Arms for Nissan Titan / Titan Swapped 2nd Gen Nissan Frontier & Xterra w/ Weld Washers

www.alldogsoffroad.com

I got to looking at my MOOG arms I'm titan swapping. ADO sells 2 bolts and 'weld washer's on their site to 'fix' the oblong hole...I fabbed it up with some 1/8" steel and drilled a 9/16 hole in it(closest I had to 14 mm). I put the shock bolt through it....tightened it down while 'pulling away' from the control arm to open up as much space as possible for the large Bilstein shock eyes. I then welded it wherever I could. We'll see how it works....but hoping it helps some with contact as the front hole on my Moogs are quite large.

I didn't realize this til I already had the drivers side assembled. If it fixes it on one side but not the other...I may weld it on rig after I get it put together. Its out in the open so shouldn't be super hard.

 

[87iroc]

Also, I wonder what PN PRG was selling that were too long?.......

I think my Bilstein's are too Long

The T swap 5100s are too long without a custom tophat (ADO/Glamisdude), but then you need more snap ring grooves cut. I was hoping that the 6112s would fit better, but it looks like that's a no-go as well :/. Why would prg sell them as is knowing they are too long?

www.thenewx.org

I assembled mine today and they are officially holding my Titan swapped Xterra up. WOOT!

Anyway, I was thinking. IF you use OEM tophats and this setup. Its going to naturally be longer as the tophat doesn't sit down over the shaft like custom top hats do. That'll easily add an inch or 2 to the 'installed height' the guy was seeing in the above link. THAT would also explain NIsstec saying 'they're too LONG and you'll snap a CV shaft if XYZ occurs'. I think stock tophats are bad on these and custom fabbed ones are way to go to correct the issue. At least for those guys doing hard core stuff out there.

I 'think' I have about 4" of lift out of mine right now after a half mile of bumpy driving to try to get it to settle on the bushings. I'll post up my setup with the Bilsteins and the OEM Toyota springs later. But regardless...as I worked today I realized what was going on with the 'too long' comments. My custom top hats were a PITA to get dialed in(I didn't approach cutting holes well so had some off kilter holes it took me a few tries to get corrected).

 

[87iroc]

So as I said...got my Titan Swap done. I wanted to document this for future reference for folks as there's lots of info for lighter weight vehicles in here with some details but not so much for overweight rigs.

My setup is Custom Top Hats that are linked earlier in thread.

Springs:
I used OEM Toyota p/n: 48131-04571 springs. I back researched the OEM p/n I needed based on MOOG P/N's as most of this thread deals in MOOG. I wanted the added travel of OEM springs(recall that MOOG Coils and all aftermarket I found use higher coil count driving compressed length up and wheel travel down. With my TRWs I'd have gotten about 6" of wheel travel til fully compressed). The OEM ones I bought had the 13.9" free length making them the shortest OEM 660 lb springs available from Toyota that I found

I mounted them in factory Bilstein lowest groove. My Xterra is very heavy with winch(synt rope) along with Shrock bumper and full skids.s

I estimate 4" of lift out of the gate with them...so very reasonable w/o having to modify the Bilsteins. I haven't put 2 of the skids back on and it has about 10 miles on it. Will see later in summer if/and how much it settles. But overall, it looks great. Still sorting out how it rides and how it 'leans' in corners after I get a couple of bugs worked out in the suspension. I have 3.5" in rear so its sitting a 1/2" front high but not too bad and I am hoping it settles with the 2 skids i still need to install plus some time on it.

 

[roXterra]

Looks great.
My (discontinued) ProComp Tundra adjustable shocks were about $140 each and top hats were Nissan stock.
FJ 610lb coils. Titan SPC UCAs.
Has been great for many months. At the time I thought of Nisstec MK IIs but with the waits others have seen, that’s a turn off and I am not missing anything.
Bilstein Tundra shocks had too big of eyelids which rubbed sometimes (metal on metal) but worked.
Minimum lift, I think that’s 3”. Right now:
35.5” front
37” rear
What are the stock numbers?

 

[87iroc]

I think I have sorted the rubbing issue due to elongated holes I mentioned above. Too soon to tell though.

Stock height was 34” with 32” tires from ground to fender. Now it’s 38.5.

oh. I have 9” of wheel travel. Can up it to 10 but will need to cut fender and I’m not ready for that mentally yet. Lol