Disconnected both sway bars

Took off the back but not the front.

Doug, you drove home with the front still disconnected?

PonyBoy said:

Doug, you drove home with the front still disconnected?

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Yep, a little more bounce, but no noticable roll. Why is that a bad thing?

Night in Armor said:

Why is that a bad thing?

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Only if you feel that you didn't have control.

Greg has his both disconnected. I don't think it' really noticable if you have AC's springs up in the front since they have such a high spring rate.

dan galusha said:

Greg has his both disconnected. I don't think it' really noticable if you have AC's springs up in the front since they have such a high spring rate.

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Good point, Dan. I was thinking the very same thing when I started reading this post. I have the rear removed already, but know I'm thinking about removing the front just to see how much the AC coils will control body roll.

I'm stock up front. would love the total chaos mod though.

I just disco'd my front and it seems to ride and handle a little better now. Was going to make some relocation brackets for the front sway bar but the fab shops wrencher used a Big A$$ impact wrench and cross threaded 2 of the swar bar bracket bolts on. I'm just going to leave it off for now.

i have no sway bars. said goodbye to the front bar completely when i put on the new UCAs. the rear sway bar is more noticable when you remove it than the front. this is of course with the TC arms and the AC coils. so your results may vary. i have very little difference in handling due to the front sway bar removal.

i would guess i could come by your house remove it by the dark of night and you would not notice until you looked under the truck and see it missing. again that is on the AC springs. stock springs maybe a different story.

Before this last weekends offroad trip....

Before this last weekends offroad trip I noticed that the nut for the passengers side sway bar link was missing (must have fell off between Moab and now). I never seemed to notice the loss either. I also have the AC springs. Thinking of removing it all together as well...

I removed the front anti sway bar this morning (rear sway came off months ago). Went for a ride on some twisty back roads to test it out. Tried a little hard braking and a couple emergency type maneuvers. I'm confident the truck is safe and handles predictably.

Up front, I'm running AC coils, T/C UCA's and a 1" spacer from PRG.

05XOR said:

Up front, I'm running AC coils, T/C UCA's and a 1" spacer from PRG.

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One inch spacer from PRG? I thought they only sold 2 and 3 inch spacers? If you do have a 1 inch spacer with AC coils and the UCA, did you have any problem getting your camber within factory specs?

PRG cut me a 1" spacer because I am already running AC coils. Camber is a shade under 1 degree from perfect. Truck drives straight as an arrow. Still, I'll need to rotate tires when I do oil changes 3-4k miles.

05XOR said:

PRG cut me a 1" spacer because I am already running AC coils. Camber is a shade under 1 degree from perfect. Truck drives straight as an arrow. Still, I'll need to rotate tires when I do oil changes 3-4k miles.

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Really... Did he charge you the same price as the 2" spacer or more? Do you have any pics of your rig?

Here:

http://www.vaxc.org/phpBB2/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=23274

05XOR said:

Here:

http://www.vaxc.org/phpBB2/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=23274

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Alright... you've sold me. I think I'm going to get ahold of Greg to see how much to cut some more 1" spacers. Are you running an AAL in the back, or just the shackles? Looks good, whatever you're running.

AC's AAL & Shackles with Bilstein 5100 series shocks.

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my 2 cents...

From my autocross days, I learned that the rear swaybar actually affects the front of the vehicle and vice versa. -On-Road-. When you remove the rear bar you will actually make the vehicle understeer more. That is generally accepted as safer than oversteer if you lose control.

Now, sway bars are really a compromise that auto manufacturers have used so they can put softer springs on cars and trucks to keep the ride cushy and still have good handling. In Europe sway bars aren't as big. They tend to stiffen the springs instead because swaybars make things worse in rain and snow.

So, I see from your observations, that with the stiffer springs like the AC stuff, you are confirming these facts. By putting stiffer springs in the front and rear the X will probably handle about the same as w/o any bars.

Z.

I mean with stiffer springs, take the bars off, and the X will handle about the same.