[OregonX]

Thought I would create a separate thread for this one, just to grab a little bit more attention.

Also found this;

http://www.xterraownersclub.com/reviews/coolerman_cibs01.html

 

[dpatton]

Thought I would create a separate thread for this one, just to grab a little bit more attention.

How can you have a non-OR model, living in Eugene? ;-)

Seriously though, your posting's title implies that the Off-Road model Xterra comes with a Clutch Start Cancel switch. That isn't necessarily the case. My 2006 Xterra Off-Road doesn't have such a switch, and there is no option on the Nissan Canada website to configure such an option.

 

[RiNkY]

You gor ripped then dpatton - The clutch override is a standard feature on the 05/06.

I believe I read somewhere once that it's just a 2 pin switch, which you can short by soldering a piece of wire accross the pins, which then makes it believe that it is Always On.

 

[Old Navy]

My 2006 Xterra Off-Road doesn't have such a switch, and there is no option on the Nissan Canada website to configure such an option.

Unless there is something unusual/different on vehicles sold in Canada, every 4WD truck with a MT I've ever owned in the past 30 years, has had the Clutch Start Cancel (Bypass) Switch.

 

[dpatton]

You gor ripped then dpatton - The clutch override is a standard feature on the 05/06.

My 2006 Xterra Off-Road doesn't have such a switch, and there is no option on the Nissan Canada website to configure such an option.

Unless there is something unusual/different on vehicles sold in Canada, every 4WD truck with a MT I've ever owned in the past 30 years, has had the Clutch Start Cancel (Bypass) Switch.

It appears that Xterras sold in Canada do not have the Clutch Start Cancel feature. Mine doesn't, and I'm not the only one:
http://www.xterraownersclub.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=78;t=001187

It's a feature that is listed in the specs for 2007 USA models:
http://www.nissanusa.com/xterra/specifications.html
but it's not listed for the Canadian models:
http://nissan.ca/en/vehicles/specifications/specifications.asp?series=8

I think it's probably because in 2003 the Canadian Government's Motor Vehicle Safety Act was modified, in part, to say:

If a passenger car, multipurpose passenger vehicle or truck has a GVWR of 4 536 kg or less and is equipped with a manual transmission, a motor used for the vehicle's propulsion must not be started by setting the ignition switch to the position used to start the motor unless the clutch pedal is depressed or the drive train is otherwise disengaged.

Essentially, the Act mandates that vehicles have either a Brake Shift Interlock(automatic transmission) or Clutch Ignition Interlock(manual transmission). You can read more about it here:
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/2003/20030618/html/sor189-e.html

My guess is that Nissan Canada interprets The Act to mean that the Clutch Start Cancel switch would not be allowed, because it bypasses a safety feature mandated by The Act.

If somebody in the USA with a 2006 Off-road Xterra with manual transmission does some research, maybe we can figure out if it is possible to add the switch to Canadian models, and by extension, to non-OR models. The two things I'd suggest are:
1)
Call a US dealership, and get the part number for the Clutch Start Cancel switch, as well as any 'associated parts'(e.g. wiring harness, etc).
2)
Take some pictures and make some notes about how it is installed in the US models.

 

[jwd270]

My 2006 Xterra Off-Road doesn't have such a switch, and there is no option on the Nissan Canada website to configure such an option.

Unless there is something unusual/different on vehicles sold in Canada, every 4WD truck with a MT I've ever owned in the past 30 years, has had the Clutch Start Cancel (Bypass) Switch.

My 04 X MT didn't have one.

 

[RiNkY]

1st Gen X's didn't have em. I guess Canadian 2nd Gens don't have em - I did actually know that, totally forgot to look where you were from. Nice that the 07 is gonna have it. Should be a real simple mod tho to either hookup your own switch, or just short the switch on the clutch pedal.

 

[dpatton]

If somebody in the USA with a 2006 Off-road Xterra with manual transmission does some research, maybe we can figure out if it is possible to add the switch to Canadian models, and by extension, to non-OR models. The two things I'd suggest are:
1)
Call a US dealership, and get the part number for the Clutch Start Cancel switch, as well as any 'associated parts'(e.g. wiring harness, etc).
2)
Take some pictures and make some notes about how it is installed in the US models.

Anyone in the US willing to do this?

 

[cookX]

i'm pretty sure the clutch start cancel switch is an american thing, and they dont need to depress the clutch to start the car in canada

 

[dpatton]

i'm pretty sure the clutch start cancel switch is an american thing, and they dont need to depress the clutch to start the car in canada

That's the whole point! The clutch start cancel IS "an american thing".
In Canada you DO have to depress the clutch pedal to start the X, and there is no option available from Nissan Canada to add the clutch start cancel feature.

 

[Yeller_X]

My 05 S MT doesn't have it.

 

[kokopop]

My 05 S MT doesn't have it.

I believe it is an OR only feature.

 

[X_Ego]

How the hell do you use this thing anyway? Every time I do, bad things happen. I don't think I'm doing it right.

 

[RiNkY]

While in 4Lo - Put the truck in 1st gear and pull the clutch out (Off the clutch pedal), press the magic button, then crank the engine and gas it a little and you should be able to pull away.

The situation in mind is you are rock crawling / wheeling and rolling backwards wouldn't be good. You have 1 foot on the brake pedal and have your other foot for the gas. So you can safely move away from a stalled situation without rolling backwards and without requiring a 3rd foot for the clutch.

 

[Peck]

So anyone figure out a surefire way of wiring one in yet? This would come in real handy when I just want to start the truck and not drive it anywhere. Like when working on the truck or at the beach and needing to recharge my battery. I hate having to crawl in the cab all dirty just to start the motor.

 

[Robb_D]

My previous vehicle was an 02 jeep wrangler. It didn't have such a switch, but there was a fuse that you could remove that would acomplish the goal. Not sure if the X would have such a fuse, but I would guess that there is one somewhere, as the swith is an electrical thing... Knowing Nissan however it's probably a fuse tied to everything else on the truck...

 

[dpatton]

I took a look at some info in the service manual today. Looks like there are "four key parts" to make this work:
- the switch that is on the clutch pedal lever
- a relay that is up under the dash
- the clutch interlock switch in the dash(with the Cancel light)
- a relay in the engine compartment

I just checked, and in my Canadian 2006 OR (which does not have the Clutch Interlock Switch), the relay in the engine compartment doesn't exist, and there is no wiring going to the place for the relay. I haven't checked to see if the relay under the dash exists, or if the connector for the clutch interlock switch exists.

 

[dpatton]

I checked at the local dealership - here are the part numbers:
- 25230-79918 relay that is up under the dash ($41.31)
- 25325-EA000 clutch interlock switch in the dash ($120.35)
- 25230-79963 relay in the engine compartment ($36.61)
Those prices are Canadian dollars.

 

[Yeller_X]

You think that this can be done pretty easily? Hell if it can then even non OR models might be able to do it.