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I am jealous of the heated seats! And it's a manual in blue. I wonder how many Blue Pro-4X manuals were ever even made, can't be that many right?
My wife loves heated seats... I'm sure she will use the feature even here in Sunny SoCal! But I likely won't have much use for it except on trips to the mountains.
 

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Carmax just notified me the truck has arrived in San Diego! Supposedly it will be a couple days for them to wash it and check it over and then they will call me to set up my inspection. I plan on scheduling a 24 hour test drive and taking it to mechanic for a through inspection...
 

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Hmm... thinking about this, I think they have to get a VIN inspection and have it smog checked... so it might be a while...
I know if I buy an out of state vehicle from and individual I have to do those myself and run around to the DMV and smog inspector. Hopefully they have a streamlined process for dealers.
 

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Just for the record:
My first Xterra was a loaded Blue 2015 PRO4X (that is when I joined this board)

a)I was on contract and I heard our contract might not be renewed soon.
So, to prepare myself for what I thought was a looming unemployment, I sold the X given that it was still under 10k miles (9500) and still in the calendar year of this model year both proven value holders and by the time I would let go I was sure to be above 10,000 miles and it would then be calendar year '16 making my Xterra notably "older" in possible buyers perceptions.

Little did I know that these would hold and even rise in value and that

b) my contract was renewed.

I regret I sold it just as much, as I regret selling my 2004 Caribbean Blue Infiniti G35 Coupe for a song when it had 179,000 miles, years ago... it was in near perfect shape partial new suspension, mechanically in A1 shape etc, and I got pittance for it due to milage.
 
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I'm pretty sure CarMax would have to sell it to you with a local in-state inspection sticker and locally smogged. That is what they get their markup for.
 

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I would be calling them daily 😀 with questions
I'm tempted to go to the lot and do a secret walk around... but it's really not worth my time until it's "ready".

I'm pretty sure CarMax would have to sell it to you with a local in-state inspection sticker and locally smogged. That is what they get their markup for.
This is certainly true, and probably the cause of the delay before they are ready to make an appointment for me... they can't sell it to me until they get the smog and VIN inspection.

Every day I hope to hear it's ready! Arg!
 

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Well, I had some time and I went by the carmax lot today and went looking around. I found the truck and got a look at it! I did a thorough walk around but didn't get inside.
It looks pretty good so far! Needs a wash but the exterior condition looks very nice.
I used my paint depth gauge and found the area of a previous "minor" accident that was stated on the carfax. It is right in front of the fuel filler door and extends forward into the passenger door. I couldn't see anything (at least with the dirty car) but the paint was thicker in that area and there is maybe some thin filler right in front of the filler door. At first glance it looks like a well done repair for a minor dent or scrape. Gotta wash it and look, but I think its likely undetectable without a magnet.
The pinstripes are shot, but appear to be easily removable. That's good since I don't like them! I'm just hoping that removing them doesn't leave a visible "non-faded" stripe.
The underside looks pretty good too, just some surface rust. Not as nice as a typical SoCal car, but acceptable in my opinion.
I'll have scheduled a test drive for next week and I'll also bring it to my friendly shop and put it on a lift, etc.
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The car was clearly loved by its previous owner, as evidenced by the PRO4X decal from the Frontier on the flank.
IMO thats a thing only someone into Nissans and Xterras would do.
I also prefer factory Nav over a phone based Nav.
because the phone needs to "see" the internet via cellfone towers to do this.
The cars NAV only needs to "see" satellites and they are of course visible everywhere, months, years even, after the zombie apocalypses.

In all seriousness I had issues before with phone based nav losing connection and unable to navigate.. when in the boonies that can be an issue.
 
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The car was clearly loved by its previous owner, as evidenced by the PRO4X decal from the Frontier on the flank.
IMO thats a thing only someone into Nissans and Xterras would do.
I also prefer factory Nav over a phone based Nav.
because the phone needs to "see" the internet to do this.
The cars NAV only needs to "see" satellites and they are of course visible everywhere, months, years even, after the zombie apocalypses.

In all seriousness I had issues before with phone based nav losing connection and unable to navigate.. when in the boonies that can be an issue.
That's good info on the NAV... I've never had a car with one. Really I want the backup camera. especially living in the city. I parallel park on every drive.
 

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I also prefer factory Nav over a phone based Nav.
because the phone needs to "see" the internet via cellfone towers to do this.
The cars NAV only needs to "see" satellites and they are of course visible everywhere, months, years even, after the zombie apocalypses.
Maybe with the older phones, but the newer ones with GPS (which most now have) do not depend on the cell towers.

That's good info on the NAV... I've never had a car with one.
I have a Garmin GPS on the dash, and when road tripping or off-roading I use an iPad mini that is GPS enabled for nav. To me, both are much better than the factory navigation as my copilot can make changes on the fly where the factory unit lock you out until you are stopped.
 

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Factory pro 4x camera works (in dash display) but it points downwards. Higher mounted back facing camera in upper right. Both together even better.
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i prefer a dedicated GPS. Single purpose devices do 1 thing well and they don’t go down when something in the unit goes down.

Stock stuff works until you try something better. I can store a few thousand destinations and in theory move it in between cars. Closer to my hand. Doesn’t restrict anything based on car in motion. Doesn’t cover stereo screen.
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Backup camera is awesome. I don’t know how I lived without one at this point.

The integrated GPS is useless. Roads change at a pace now that the 2015 maps are going to be completely out of date and the updated SD cards are stupid expensive. Just run your phone GPS which updates constantly (for free) and has integrated traffic and speed traps.
 

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Offroad, I usera Garmin Montana and California Trail Map. And I carry an InReach beacon too that has maps. I'm pretty good at offroad navigation, being a desert motorcyclist.
But around the city I use my phone. And there is a good chance I upgrade the head unit to an android auto unit.
I do think the backup camera will be really useful.

Factory pro 4x camera works (in dash display) but it points downwards. Higher mounted back facing camera in upper right. Both together even better. View attachment 141763
Roxterra, what is / who makes that wide display?
 

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Sorry OP I hope we are not derailing your thread too much :)

I always liked factory Nav systems.
They are integrated smoothly.
Nothing is mounted non stock looking on dash etc.
Sure the phones are updated more quickly but I respectfully disagree with the poster that states roads are changing quickly.

And I believe factory Navs are more robust physically, electrically and from a reception standpoint.
Imagine trying to get out of town during hurricane emergency, ALL the cell phone towers will be overloaded then and you are driving on unfamiliar roads.

For example even non emergency, when I drive through an area here (FL/AL border area) in the boonies my google nav complete drops off.
Waze will work a bit better for a while and rember the route w/o cell fone towers.
It often remembers the route it was supposed to show as we drive through no coverage.
But if I stop at my destination and want to change the route or return it simple does not work nd i have to go back by memory
Which is good exercise for mental acuity,.. but what if its night time, I am tired, etc etc

Even an older factory system will not have that issue.

I currently do not have a factory Nav anymore but I remember how nice it was to have one on my 2015.

PS: For these reasons for "serious" road trips I use a Garmin instead of my phone, which, even though it does not read traffic conditions as well as Waze, does a better job on keeping me on the major roads than google + Waze and is more resilient almost like a factory Nav,
Garmin of course was (is?) a supplier of factory navs to Nissan.

Plus with phone I feel, I always have to take my eyes off the road way to much to use them due to suboptimal mounting location and tiny controls to manipulate them
 

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when I drive through an area here in the boonies my google nav complete drops off.
It often remembers the route ti was supposed to show as we drive through no coverage.
but if I stop and want to change the route or return it does not work.
FWIW, Google Maps allows you to download rather huge areas to avoid that problem if you are headed out of network data coverage.
 

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Discussion Starter · #39 · (Edited)
Well, I finally saw the truck! I took it on a 24 hour test drive, inspected in closely myself and then brought it to my local shop.
Overall, it looked very nice. But it did have a couple issues and I have asked Carmax to address them. Carmax won't negotiate, but they will often fix flaws. They made no commitment, but are investigating my list and will get back to me.
Exterior an interior are GREAT. Underside has more rust than a California car, but not bad.
Issues:
  • OBD codes, I posted a separate thread about these.
  • Pulsation/vibration in the brake pedal caused by significantly rusted brake rotors. With luck they will replace the rotors and pads for me if it doesn't meet their standards.
  • I asked them to test the battery as it looked old to me, and if it's weak I hope they will replace it.
  • Noise from the clutch pedal. Especially at high revs there is a moan or groan when depressing and releasing the pedal. I hope it's not the clutch throwout bearing, this sounded more like a vibration or resonance in the pedal / return spring assembly. Hopefully it just needs some WD40 somewhere.
  • Cabin air filter cover was missing and there was a loud howling/whistling from the heat / ac fan. The clip that holds the filter cover in place is also broken, and that is a real problem to fix. Might require a new expensive HVAC unit just to have an unbroken clip. On my Frontier I have the same problem and used a zip tie to hold the door in place.

So now I'm just waiting to see what they decide they will do. I would like to buy it... hopefully we can come to some agreement on this stuff. This one is very expensive, and at the price I would like everything to be "right". ;-)
 
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