[IZVERG]

So here's the deal; back in mid-July I put on the new tires and PRG lift (BFG ATs w/ front spacer and rear 5125s w/ Deaver AAL). Pretty common lift, right? Well, ever since then I have had to take the X in for alignments and toe adjustments about every week! I called PRG today and they mentioned that the way most shops align, computerized and on the racks, is not the way to go. The old-school alignment is what they like, as detailed in the install instructions that come w/ their lift. Anyone else w/ me on this?! Advice?

 

[willgr1]

you have camber bolts installed??

 

[IZVERG]

Yep, well that's what NTB and Firestone have told me. I have yet to check for myself due to the fact that I'm not sure what I'd be looking for. I bought the X in Aug 05, so I think the production line around that time put them on there.

 

[willgr1]

you may wanna double check, that may be why your having continuous alignment problems.

look at the bolts that connect the lower control arms to truck, the bolts that hold them in place will be off-center from the washer if you have the bolts.

 

[danh1023]

Once you determine that you have the right bolts (or not), find a good 4X4/Off Road shop and let them align it. That's what I did after installing the camber bolts, Top Gunz spacers and AC shackles, and that was almost a year ago with (knock on wood) no problems so far. The alignment was about $40.00 and they did it the old-fashioned way, what ever way that was.

 

[IZVERG]

Aight, will do. I had a local off-road shop do the lift install for me but I know that they just take their finished products to Firestone for alignments. Maybe if I get those directions from PRG again they could align it for me the old fashioned way?

 

[Muzikman]

Firestone will not.

I have had no problems with Firestone aligning mine with the lift.

 

[IZVERG]

You're saying Firestone will not align the old way? And that's where I had it aligned the past two times, though the most recent adjustment seems to be holding the best so far. I'm beginning to wonder if I need to take it back to the shop that did the install and see if they did something wrong.

 

[ptlm15125]

I used front spacers and rear shackles on my 05 Frontier NISMO and had the alignment done at a shop that had a brand new "Hunter" laser alignment rack and had no problems whatsoever.

 

[Mark]

Go to a Firestone Complete Auto care center. They did mine and it was perfect. And maybe im just lucky, but they new what the hell they were doing and had experience with lifts and offroad vehicles.

 

[IZVERG]

Pretty sure that's where I went, the Firestone Complete Auto care. Maybe I need to just try a different shop since I have that lifetime alignment.

 

[mike100]

They'll give as many bad alignments as you want for free, but if you pay $80 and get the camber bolts, you'll probably not need to do it again for a few years.

A friend of mine used to work at firestone. They only gave him about $12 to do an alignment and it took 20 minutes or more just to get the car on the rack. go somewhere where they pay the tech $40 so he can put a little TLC on the adjustments.

 

[IZVERG]

Well, just got off the phone w/ PRGreg. Looks like the alignment is ok, but it's the tie-rod adjustment that's being overlooked. I'm outta town for the week (birthday at Disney World!!!) so I'll take a look at it this weekend and get back to ya guys.

 

[its_woo]

tie rod adustment is part of a good alignment!

 

[IZVERG]

Yeah, makes me think twice as to what I paid $149 for that lifetime alignment for if they keep slacking!

 

[IZVERG]

Well, my alignment is still pulling to the right just two weeks after my last adjustment. They even over-compensated to the left to take count for this again. I'm thinking about just replacing my camber bolts, any possibility they could just be bad or warped or something?

Also, seeing a few different options when looking at camber bolts in that some offer 4 bolts, washers, and nuts whereas some only offer 2. How many do I need to replace the old setup, 2 or 4?

 

[willgr1]

4

 

[IZVERG]

Thanks will!

Also, is there a preferred brand/place to get them? I'm finding them on Calmini and YourNissanParts.com, I'm I missing any?

 

[IZVERG]

I'm wondering now if upgrading to the Calmini or like cam bolts would help out my alignment issues? I have the factory cam bolts on already, maybe they're warped or been aligned just a little too much?

Had to go in for another alignment last week!

 

[willgr1]

maybe it was related to your tire issue