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09-25-2018 10:35 PM
CThoreal
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Originally Posted by Longboardr View Post
Isn't that what I said?


J/K, you did a better job of explaining it than I would have.
You certainly did, good sir.
09-25-2018 08:50 PM
sarge21rvb
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Originally Posted by mtnbound View Post
By all means use 4wd! its what( at least partly ) you bought it for, just get off pavement first!
That's true! There's some fire trails near me I've been meaning to check out and a dirt road up to a radio tower on the top of a mountain. Both perfect candidates for my complete lack of off roading experience, ha!
09-25-2018 08:38 PM
mtnbound
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Originally Posted by sarge21rvb View Post
Thanks all for the responses! Yes, it was on pavement, ha. It's my first 4x4, so I had no idea what is and isn't expected behavior. Thanks for all the information, it was very helpful and good to know the 4wd actually works, ha! I'll wait until it snows up here in the northeast before using the 4wd again.
By all means use 4wd! its what( at least partly ) you bought it for, just get off pavement first!
09-25-2018 08:33 PM
sarge21rvb Thanks all for the responses! Yes, it was on pavement, ha. It's my first 4x4, so I had no idea what is and isn't expected behavior. Thanks for all the information, it was very helpful and good to know the 4wd actually works, ha! I'll wait until it snows up here in the northeast before using the 4wd again.
09-25-2018 07:19 PM
JOSX2
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Originally Posted by Surf and Snow View Post
Good article Surf! and this passage caught my eye...
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When starting from a standstill*with sharply turned wheels: The need for higher rpm in the front will most likely prevent you from getting started at all. If you step on the gas really hard (plus slipping your clutch) you might get the vehicle moving with spinning rear wheels but stress on all driveline components will be dangerously high. Chance is that you will break something.
I'm now wondering if this is how I snapped my front axle shaft earlier this year. I can't remember for sure, but I wouldn't doubt that I was temporarily stopped on a hill climb with a very nasty rut directly underneath me. I know to get up, I'd cut the wheel in one direction to avoid going into it. I could have stopped mid-way, with wheels turned all the way. Then, when I went to give it gas to move...*POP*.

Hmmmm......

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09-25-2018 05:51 PM
mtnbound
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Originally Posted by Surf and Snow View Post
Best response yet.
09-25-2018 05:12 PM
Surf and Snow http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/def_turnpart.html
09-25-2018 05:10 PM
mtnbound
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Originally Posted by JOSX2 View Post
no no good sir....you are quite wrong in that ;-) that's what a Locker does. not 4x4.
thats why i put "lock" in quotes. its not technically locked as a "locker" would per say, but for the conversation it makes sense. to me at least..
09-25-2018 04:27 PM
Longboardr
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Originally Posted by CThoreal View Post
This is technically wrong as well. With open diffs (without a locker), the inner and outer wheels, on the same axle, can still rotate at different speeds. However the rear wheels will "cut under" and make a sharper radius than the front wheels. This forces all 4 wheels to try and rotate at 4 different speeds. Directly causing the front and rear axles to try and rotate at different speeds in relation to each other. This difference between the front and rear axle speeds is what causes the binding.
Isn't that what I said?


J/K, you did a better job of explaining it than I would have.
09-25-2018 04:03 PM
JOSX2 i gotcha. well damn....i've had the wrong train of thought all these years LOL. Learn something new every day ;-)

Well...i was sorta close at least LOL
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