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post #1081 of 1276 (permalink) Old 05-02-2019, 05:28 PM
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Anyone ever had a lower control arm move around at the frame mounts but not because of loose camber bolts? I'm trying to track down why my truck alignment seems to change day to day, sometimes it's perfect and the next day it can be all over the place...something is loose and it's not the camber bolts. The fact it can be fine for a day makes me want to rule out tie rods and bearings because those are usually either bad or good. Everything up front suspensionwise is under a year old.
Yea, your bushings are probably shot. Mine are bad for a 2nd time right now. Debating whether to bite the bullet and put delrin bushings in or just replace the entire uca. Probably should go with the delrin bushings or I'll be in the same place again in 15k miles.

Flexing out is really hard on the stock style LCA bushings.

From the first time they wore out:

Found this again when I did a brake job a few weekends ago. No wonder why I couldn't keep it aligned.
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Ah that's probably it then. That video is pretty much what I think is happening, the 4 inch lift probably isn't helping very much with longevity of the bushings very much and it's been something that has slowly become worse over time. I wonder if I should press out the bushings and find a better quality to put in + those delrins to help them last longer.


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Ah that's probably it then. That video is pretty much what I think is happening, the 4 inch lift probably isn't helping very much with longevity of the bushings very much and it's been something that has slowly become worse over time. I wonder if I should press out the bushings and find a better quality to put in + those delrins to help them last longer.


I have SPC UCAís and my steering gets intermittently hard. Seems that when I wheel hard in the dunes, everything moves. When I put it on a lift, they line up again(everything moves).
Seriously considering dropping in custom poly bushes to stop the madness. Got around 20000 km on the Titan swap and have identified a few problems. Also replacing inner and outer steering with heim joints cause after 2 sets from Moog Iím done with those ball joints. Gonna suck it up and go for the dirt king stuff next round of mods....


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I have SPC UCA’s and my steering gets intermittently hard. Seems that when I wheel hard in the dunes, everything moves. When I put it on a lift, they line up again(everything moves).
Seriously considering dropping in custom poly bushes to stop the madness. Got around 20000 km on the Titan swap and have identified a few problems. Also replacing inner and outer steering with heim joints cause after 2 sets from Moog I’m done with those ball joints. Gonna suck it up and go for the dirt king stuff next round of mods....


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That seems to be similar to what I'm having happen, even rough roads and potholes seem to let things move around. This morning it was driving great but I know that will only last a day or two max. Not a bad idea with poly lca bushings, are there any good brands out there that make a set for ours?


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That seems to be similar to what I'm having happen, even rough roads and potholes seem to let things move around. This morning it was driving great but I know that will only last a day or two max. Not a bad idea with poly lca bushings, are there any good brands out there that make a set for ours?
I believe Nisstec, PRG, and CJD Racing all make LCA bushing replacements. 4x4 parts might also make them, but I haven't looked.

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are there any good brands out there that make a set for ours?

Delrin is the brand. Can be gotten through the vendors Rik mentioned above.

Note: I'm fairly confident Delrin is what comes on the SPC UCA's.

Edit: Delrin is a material not a brand. See IM1RU's post 5 places down.

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I found these just now on the 4x4parts site: offset poly bushings

I think the offset would probably help reduce wear because the camber bolt wouldn't be pushing them into place like the regular center bore type? They lost me at $225 though, that's too much to spend on something that might not even matter.


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We have poly rods at the shop so Iíll get the machinist to make me a set with the metal inserts. No paying to ship to Qatar. Itís costs more to ship than they cost.


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We have poly rods at the shop so Iíll get the machinist to make me a set with the metal inserts. No paying to ship to Qatar. Itís costs more to ship than they cost.


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Do you know a lot about what kind of poly it is? I cheaped out on some ebay steering rack poly bushings a couple years ago that I just had to remove because they turned into a cottage cheese like mess and basically fell apart so that's what I'm trying to avoid on these.


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Do you know a lot about what kind of poly it is? I cheaped out on some ebay steering rack poly bushings a couple years ago that I just had to remove because they turned into a cottage cheese like mess and basically fell apart so that's what I'm trying to avoid on these.
We have polyurethane in large rods that we can machine to size. I use high grade steel inserts to prevent crushing them too. I'm not mad about the look of those offset bushes. Too many parts involved that could turn or if not correctly fitted, cause more headaches.


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