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After reading about some of the challenges of bleeding ABS system, I'm a little hesitant. I'd hate to create more problems to increase petal feel and braking power.
There is a technique to bleeding the brakes on our Nissan's.

After titan swapping I bleed the brakes 4 times with a vacuum pump and traditional way with 2 people. The pedal was very soft. I was convinced it was the best it could get and I needed a brake booster upgrade. Then.....

I watched a video that explained the brakes being bled with the engine running. So, I gave it a shot. Holy spaceballs captain it worked. I was told this is due to our ABS system. Pedal feels great now.

Since, I have read it can be done without the engine running and the abs and/or, battery being disconnected. That may be possible, but I can not confirm that. I am 2 for 2 with the engine running technic.

Maybe this could work for you. Imagine it's worth a shot before buying that kit.

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There is a technic to bleeding the brakes on our Nissan's.


I watched a video that showed the brakes being bled with the engine running. So, I gave it a shot. Holy spaceballs captain it worked. I was told this is due to our ABS system. Pedal feels great now.

Maybe this could work for you. Imagine it's worth a shot before buying that kit.
Do you have a link for this video?


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Do you have a link for this video?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/soca...6562274601900/

It's just @zachary on FB rambling lol. However, it worked for him and worked for me. He did it traditionally by having somebody pump the brake pedal. I did mine alone with a Harbor Freight vacuum pump. https://m.harborfreight.com/brake-bl....google.com%2F


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There is a technic to bleeding the brakes on our Nissan's.

After titan swapping I bleed the brakes 4 times with a vacuum pump and traditional way with 2 people. The pedal was very soft. I was convinced it was the best it could get and I needed a brake booster upgrade. Then.....

I watched a video that showed the brakes being bled with the engine running. So, I gave it a shot. Holy spaceballs captain it worked. I was told this is due to our ABS system. Pedal feels great now.

Since I have read it can be done without the engine running and the abs and/or, battery being disconnected. That may be possible, but I can not confirm that. I am 2 for 2 with the engine running technic.

Maybe this could work for you. Imagine it's worth a shot before buying that kit.
This^^^ right here. Either the truck needs to be running or it needs to be hooked up to a reader that'll activate the ABS module with the truck off. I've never seen a really successful full system bleed on these without one of those options. Sure, plenty of people have done corner bleeds successfully without activating the system, myself included, but a full system bleed needs to be done with the system running. I've seen this mentioned by a few actual Nissan techs on here, but very few people actually do it.

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This^^^ right here. Either the truck needs to be running or it needs to be hooked up to a reader that'll activate the ABS module with the truck off. I've never seen a really successful full system bleed on these without one of those options. Sure, plenty of people have done corner bleeds successfully without activating the system, myself included, but a full system bleed needs to be done with the system running. I've seen this mentioned by a few actual Nissan techs on here, but very few people actually do it.
Just to make sure, the process is to turn on the engine, have someone push the pedal while someone bleeds each brake. Do I have that right?

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Just to make sure, the process is to turn on the engine, have someone push the pedal while someone bleeds each brake. Do I have that right?

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Yes. To be clear it's 1 caliper at a time in this order.

1. Driver's front
2. Passenger rear
3. Driver's rear
4. Passenger front

This is the order Zack says in the video. I cannot confirm if it's per manufacturing specs. However, it did work for Zack and this guy.

The key here is to have the engine running while doing it.

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Yes. To be clear it's 1 caliper at a time in this order.

1. Driver's front
2. Passenger rear
3. Driver's rear
4. Passenger front

This is the order Zack says in the video. I cannot confirm if it's per manufacturing specs. However, it did work for Zack and this guy.

The key here is to have the engine running while doing it.
I was always told to start at the furthest point from the master cylinder. IE Pass Rear, Driver Rear, Pass Front then Driver Front.
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I was always told to start at the furthest point from the master cylinder. IE Pass Rear, Driver Rear, Pass Front then Driver Front.
Yes. In the video Zack says the drivers front is furthest away. Due to the break line routing/length from master cylinder on xterra/frontiers.

Note: this info is second hand from the video link above. I have not confirmed this. It's likely a good idea to cross reference with manufacturers specs for caliper order.



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I was always told to start at the furthest point from the master cylinder. IE Pass Rear, Driver Rear, Pass Front then Driver Front.
normally...yes.

For our rigs...no. The bleeding order @AdventureRider81 listed is the proper order per FSM
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