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No amount of words on this page will allow you to feel how the X rides without the sway bar. The first time you remove the bar it takes 30 min or so. Once familiar it is a 15 min job. Try it you will like it.
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I've heard this from others as well lol. I wonder what the difference is. I am Titan Swapped and 650# springs (full armor though) but I know that if I try to swerve from one lane to another lane and back at 65mph I'll be in the ditch. I have to take on-ramps and S-curves slower. Traction control comes on if I run too hard. The body roll makes it feel like the G-forces are 2x higher than they really are.
Changing this message. I took the sway bar off and the truck drives way better than with it. Same day I removed I went out on the interstate until I got to a clear section to practice emergency lane changing, slowly at first and then getting more aggressive with it. I had no issue with it, I am still running the rear sway bar which might be why, or it's 13 years experience driving the same truck, at this point I can put it exactly where I want it on the road.
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Quite a fair number of Frontiers have gone the "disconnect" route before removal as pulling a sway link is faster/easier to test it out on the street.
However the Frontier is far less tippy than an X (stock-ish config) without all that body above the belt line and extra 2ft wheelbase...
But try that before pulling the entire sway bar to see how you like the on-road handling.

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I have brand new stock springs, 2" spacers, bilstein 5100s and SPC UCA. Broke endlinks first time on the trail post lift and removed the FSB. Seemed fine until I had to make an emergency maneuver on the highway. I am making extended length links now to put the FSB back on. The vehicle is not nearly as capable on road when needing to make these maneuvers. Stiffer springs will help a bit...
PRG has extended sway links (listed under Titan suspension) that are IIRC 1" - 2" longer over stock.

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Great feedbacks! Couple of things, I wonder if going 650 lbs will help lessen the on-road wallow vs my 600. I do only have the Hefty alum front bumper and Warn winch so not sure if that rate is needed. Second thing, someone mentioned disconnecting an end link, doesn’t that loose FSB end interfere with the LCA on full travel? Last, I could r/r the FSB each time but man that’s a pain since it’s behind my Shrock rad skid, bolts hard to get to. But this maybe the only best option since I still DD mine.

Hey does anyone make a thinner FSB or another Nissan unit that fits??
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Quite a fair number of Frontiers have gone the "disconnect" route before removal as pulling a sway link is faster/easier to test it out on the street.
However the Frontier is far less tippy than an X (stock-ish config) without all that body above the belt line and extra 2ft wheelbase...
But try that before pulling the entire sway bar to see how you like the on-road handling.

PRG has extended sway links (listed under Titan suspension) that are IIRC 1" - 2" longer over stock.
Wait a min, I wonder if these PRG extended links can be used giving more clearance by removing an endlink and not have any LCA interference on this ‘disconnect’ mode. Maybe worth a try?

A disconnect is best of what I’m looking for if that’s possible.
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A disconnect is best of what I’m looking for if that’s possible.
It's not. Removing it just isn't that big of a deal. Take it off, drive it for a week, and decide. You can't disconnect it and wheel with it on, you'll find yourself in a big mess. If you wheel, you will find the sway bar delete is one of the best mods you can do, and frankly IMO makes street driving better too.
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Wait a min, I wonder if these PRG extended links can be used giving more clearance by removing an endlink and not have any LCA interference on this ‘disconnect’ mode. Maybe worth a try?

A disconnect is best of what I’m looking for if that’s possible.
Unfortunately, no. The sway bar is caught between the tie rod and the LCA. The only way to have it disconnected at the end links is to remove it completely. Removing it every time you wheel would require removing the rad skid. I don't think there's enough clearance to pull it through.
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I'm using the how to on here to make the same links for a bit less money. Can order the main parts off McMaster carr then just need nuts.

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I do not have a Titan Swap but run 1" wheel spacers. I have 2.5" Radflo's with 650 lb springs and full armor but no winch. I live in the Santa Cruz mountains and daily drive my X on very narrow twisting roads. The on road ride is much smoother, the steering is lighter and any additional body roll is so slight that I cannot feel it. As others have said.... an emergency swerve would be get my attention but I don't drive the X like a sports car, I NEVER tail gate and I am a careful driver and avoid those situations.

I drove a friends X in Moab last year that still had both anti sway bars on it and the ride was terrible! It was harsh on every small bump and the steering took way more effort than my rig. I will NEVER put the anti sway bars back on the front or rear of my X.

IMHO, the 650 lb springs reduce body roll enough to where the anti sway bars are not needed.

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Just did Broken Arrow, Cliffhanger, Schnebly at Sedona. Front sway still attached, still no problems really. I could tell at a few turn and drop sections an FSB-delete would help lessen the tippiness. But with the 33” KO2s at 20 psi, crawled up everything...happy!

Will definitely do the delete next wheeling, every little bit helps.
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