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Since they're using the Xterra transmission are they using the Xterra clutch?

(Sorry if this had been answered somewhere else, I'm not read up on this)
Driven Desire stated the oem clutch is maintained. So realistically an aftermarket clutch would be a smart upgrade. Like a Centerforce or similar.


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How do you use it? You take it to the drag strip?
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ALso, I'd be more interested into making the ISV work.


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For me, a V8 would turn the X into the perfect rig for how I use it.
How do you use it? You take it to the drag strip?
lol no drag strip yet, but I'd sure give it a go with a v8.

I tow a camp trailer and utility trailer fairly regularly. That coupled with living in the mtns and climbing hills almost anywhere I go leaves something to be desired with a manual. I'm also not gonna lie I just want a v8 again.

Also, Id love to run 35s but cant take the hit on power without regearing. Id rather put that money towards a v8 swap and be able to run 35s with current gears. From what Ive gathered so far the titans run a couple hundred RPMs less at speed than my rig does. So I should be able to stay with my gears, go up to 35s and be sittin pretty good ratio wise. I still need to do some more research though.


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Since they're using the Xterra transmission are they using the Xterra clutch?

(Sorry if this had been answered somewhere else, I'm not read up on this)
The XTerra 6MT is quite robust.
How do I know?
Its same as on 350Z and back in the day lots of guys had 400 hp thru those on stock clutch, 500 hp with Nismo clutch (or exedy etc etc). Some guys had 700 hp (550-600 lb ft of tourque) on stock tranny w/ upgraded clutch...Never any problems.

I ran a stock clutch for a while with a 490 hp set up and it just started to slip a bit at full throttle but worked quite well mostly.
No problems on stock clutch with a 390 hp setup in the Z (of course that was "only" 350 lbs ft of tourque or so.
A Nismo clutch worked 100% at 500 hp

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The XTerra 6MT is quite robust.
How do I know?
Its same as on 350Z and back in the day lots of guys had 400 hp thru those on stock clutch, 500 hp with Nismo clutch (or exedy etc etc). Never any problems.

I ran a stock clutch for a while with a 490 hp set up and it just started to slip a bit at full throttle but worked quite well mostly.
No problems on stock clutch with a 390 hp setup in the Z (of course that was "only" 350 lbs ft of tourque or so.
A Nismo clutch worked 100% at 500 hp
It isn't the tranny I was thinking about, it's the clutch. With people having them go out in 30k with 265 hp I wondered how it's going to fair with the V8.

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It isn't the tranny I was thinking about, it's the clutch. With people having them go out in 30k with 265 hp I wondered how it's going to fair with the V8.
There is a huge availability of upgraded clutches for this transmission sine the Z community has been doing so much turbo charging/supercharging with this exact Nissan 6MT.


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https://www.summitracing.com/search/...ubmodel/NISMO/
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It isn't the tranny I was thinking about, it's the clutch. With people having them go out in 30k with 265 hp I wondered how it's going to fair with the V8.
A lot of people can drive them right and get well over 100k out of a clutch as well. I just checked my clutch at 100k and if I keep driving it the same way it will last until 300-400k. I do tow a lot as well. Boat trailer and boat ramp as part of it. Those numbers are miles, not kilometers. Yes a stock clutch can be smoked in quick order, but it can also last a very long time as well.
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The XTerra 6MT is quite robust.
How do I know?
Its same as on 350Z
I pointed this out months ago when someone was asking about clutch upgrade options and recommended they check some Z places and I guess none of the MT guys ever took initiative to make any calls or check.

Same model, obviously gear ratios are different. I wouldn't say the FS6R31A is "robust". Probably robust enough for the Xterra, but pretty weak once you start talking street car HP. I seriously doubt a stock clutch would hold over 400 wheel horse power.

Personally, I like the RS5R30A better.

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A lot of people can drive them right and get well over 100k out of a clutch as well. I just checked my clutch at 100k and if I keep driving it the same way it will last until 300-400k. I do tow a lot as well. Boat trailer and boat ramp as part of it. Those numbers are miles, not kilometers. Yes a stock clutch can be smoked in quick order, but it can also last a very long time as well.
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I feel it would be wise, but not entirely necessary, to upgrade the clutch when doing this swap. Especially since everything would be apart anyways. I also want to state that this is pure opinin based on my own driving habits.

If you've got a heavy right foot, tow often or wheel hard - upgrade the clutch for the V8.

If you've got a light right foot, dont race around and dont wheel hard - can probably make a stock clutch work.


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I love these threads I always read
Them as I have a MT and the info is scattered around. Thanks to all who contribute! I get less and less nervous about my clutch by the thread and more confidant.


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