: Towing A Pontoon...
05-02-2007, 10:19 AM
Anybody towing pontoon boats out there? I'm getting a 21' fishing pontoon and was wondering if with a class III Xterra Tow Hitch - would it be stupid to pass on the trailer brakes? I think the trailer and boat weight will be around 3200 pounds, total. Thinking about Timbrens too, just not sure if I really want to spend on things i don't need. I just want to make sure it's safe at highway speeds and on uneven roads.
05-02-2007, 10:26 AM
I had towed a wood chipper this past weekend that weight about 3800 lbs. and you can definetly know that there is something behind you.
05-02-2007, 05:14 PM
i getting a 21' pontoon too!!!!.....in about 5 years, lol...never too early to start planning, the ones i've looked at run 3500 lbs. including trailer, the X should be able to full that fine, the max is 5000, although i don't know if i would pull something that heavy without brakes on the trailer.
you may want to upgrade the leaf springs in the back (do an add-a-leaf kit) so the back end doesn't sink lower then the front when you're towing (just a thought)
05-04-2007, 08:40 AM
I think you should consider trailer brakes. The truck will pretty much tow anything you throw at it, but trying to come to a complete stop for an emergency situation with something that heavy behind you will no trailer brakes is not a situation you want to be in.
05-04-2007, 08:42 AM
It might be tough with the MT. A few folks have burned their clutch towing heavy loads.
05-04-2007, 10:47 AM
I have an 05' 2wd auto, I moved using one of those Uhaul trailers the 12ft one I prolly maxed it out at 2600 lbs and it had the trailer brakes so i was fine. Somthing I learned when I was still in FL towin stuff for mt dad is that if I am going to be towing more often I need to get air-bags for the rear, my dad uses these on all his towing trucks, which are an f250 and a honda pilot...heres the link to the site,
I think this is better than adding a leaf becasue you adjust the ride hight back to normal when your done...and its only $205...thats what i would use :faroah:
05-04-2007, 11:50 AM
You should have no problem towing it.
Check out The New England Xterra Club (http://nexterra.2.forumer.com/)
05-04-2007, 01:37 PM
Well, I just got the Class III hitch on yesterday, and we're picking the boat up tomorrow. Thankfully, the boat trailer was shipped with "surge breaks" included, which should make this a much better situation for highway and long trips.
The dealership even threw in the electrical harness in case i need hard-wired electric breaks. I guess the surge break works at the point of contact on the hitch, and apply when they sense pushing from rear to front. Plus, no electrical hookup, beyond the 4/7 harness for lights. The air bags that Martezza linked to are interesting! One version looks like a Timbren bumpstop.
I guess I'll check the ride quality and rear squashability, and see if the Timbrens or Airbags would be a good option. I've not towed anything this large before, so it's uncharted terrain for me. Thanks for the advice! :alien:
05-05-2007, 03:09 PM
your not going to have any issues towing it, the x can handle that on its own, the reason why you would need the air bags is for a situation where its you and 4 of your friends in the x towing the boat...thats where and when you'll get the sagging rear end, and when you will need airbags...more importantly if your going a long distantace towing youll need them for short spurts from the house to the boat launch its over kill, but up here in New Hampshire, its a good 45 mile drive to the lake and its not flat so I would need them...have fun and be safe with the boat! :drunken:
05-07-2007, 01:31 PM
Well, the X towed the boat like a champ, but I was surprised at the strain on the vehicle. The back end did indeed sag, carrying 3 people and the boat.+ 150lbs of gear. I attribute this sag to the leaf setup and too far a drop on the X's hitch post. I Should have used a 2 inch drop instead of 3 - 1/4.
As for maneuvering, no problems, just kept it low and slow and kept a good line. I also figured (as this is WV) going up and down mountains, I would keep the OD off, so it locked out that last gear, and we managed about 60-65 miles an hour around 3000 RPMs. The people who trained us on the boat also recommended an AT oil cooler - is this needed? I think the total weight ended up being closer to 4,000. The the AT oil cooler is a cheap add on, but only if it's doing what it should be doing.
- Surge breaks worked perfectly, and it was no trouble stopping all the weight behind me.
- The air bags would have come in really handy too...and a half-ton pickup. :profileleft:
05-10-2007, 02:23 PM
I am not sure if it was stock or not, but I know my 2005 s 4x2 has a tranny and oil cooler....take a look see whats there
05-14-2007, 04:40 PM
Cool, looks like we have our very own oil cooler on the X, (not mentioned in the manual), but I don't think we have a tranny cooler.
05-14-2007, 06:46 PM
According to the service manual, the automatics have a tranny cooler as well.
05-14-2007, 07:04 PM
i had my grill off yesterday, there is a smaller radiator looking thing half the size of the actual radiator......from the look of the connections it looks like it is an oil cooler....but i wasn't in there to look at that, so i didn't give it a thorough look over.
05-15-2007, 02:11 AM
That's gotta be it, a good thing too. I almost dropped 64.00 on an aftermarket B&M cooler. I don't know how I missed this in the service manual, but I did. Thanks for the info guys!
Good looking out on Nissan's part as well. Sometimes you have to pay extra for these items in overpriced tow packages on other vehicles. :occasion5: