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OME or Radflo & Alcan?

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So what I want is a couple inches of lift, and the best ride quality I can get for highway commute and rough logging roads, mild offroading, etc... I don't do any heavy off roading.

The answer would seemingly be OME.
However I'm not thrilled with all the posts about the Dakar leaves creaking and popping. I don't want to listen to that around town.

SOO... Now I'm looking at doing Radflo OE length COs, with Alcan 2" lift springs and 5100s in the back. Obviously this option is a bit more $$$, but if it is no doubt a superior ride and superior setup, I can swing it. However, if it is going to be minimal difference at best from the OME, I don't want to spend the extra coin.

Thoughts? Thanks for the help.
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OK... I'm going to add one more option.

I can build a lift from Nisstec as follows, and it is $273 more shipped than the full OME kit. It SEEMS like it would be worth that?
-Mk84 front COs
-Steel axle shims
-Cam bolts
-Alcan 2" lift springs with U bolts
-Bilestein 2-2.5 5100 rear shocks
$1870 shipped


OME full kit is $1597 shipped?


I figure the Alcans are for sure an upgrade over OME Dakars... but I wonder how much better the Mk84s will ride/preform than the OME coil overs? If any at all?
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I'd go that route personally! Alcans are definitely leaps & bounds over OME. And if you tow/haul heavy stuff inside....the OMEs will hate ya. They good for lift...but not much for supporting heavy weight.

I just don't know if you'd need to get UCA's for the MK84s to avoid CBC....i'm sure someone would chime in on that though


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I'd go that route personally! Alcans are definitely leaps & bounds over OME. And if you tow/haul heavy stuff inside....the OMEs will hate ya. They good for lift...but not much for supporting heavy weight.

I just don't know if you'd need to get UCA's for the MK84s to avoid CBC....i'm sure someone would chime in on that though
I think you do need UCAs... but I figure I don't have to do them right now?
There are very few times where I'm going to droop enough to contact.
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Your second post sounds like a good plan. My only advice:

- Really figure how much extra weight you need in those Alcans. I think over-building is better. I got 350# extra and it wasn't nearly enough (I sagged 1.5" when loaded with 220lbs of camping gear) when combined with my aftermarket bumper & sliders.
- I'd order Alcans directly from Alcan themselves. It'll save you $50.
- You'll want UCAs sooner rather than later

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Your second post sounds like a good plan. My only advice:

- Really figure how much extra weight you need in those Alcans. I think over-building is better. I got 350# extra and it wasn't nearly enough (I sagged 1.5" when loaded with 220lbs of camping gear) when combined with my aftermarket bumper & sliders.
- I'd order Alcans directly from Alcan themselves. It'll save you $50.
- You'll want UCAs sooner rather than later
Thanks for the tips.
Yea, the setup on the Alcans is one thing I'm torn on. I don't have hardly any extra weight in the rear right now, but there's a decent chance I'll do a rear bumper and tire carrier in the future. My gut says the 250-350lb option at 2" lift would be a good option? But hard to tell.
I commute unloaded every day, so I don't want a harsh ride unloaded on a rough highway.
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give alcan a call...they'll help steer ya in the right direction


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Your second post sounds like a good plan. My only advice:

- Really figure how much extra weight you need in those Alcans. I think over-building is better. I got 350# extra and it wasn't nearly enough (I sagged 1.5" when loaded with 220lbs of camping gear) when combined with my aftermarket bumper & sliders.
- I'd order Alcans directly from Alcan themselves. It'll save you $50.
- You'll want UCAs sooner rather than later
Everything he said, and...

I've got a similar setup to your MK84/Alcans. MK-84 are leaps and bounds better than stock. I'm about to do a T-swap w/ Radflos, so I'll have a set of SPC UCAs and MK-84s, less than 10k on them, for sale soon, like in two weeks, for $1000. I also have Alcans that I ordered before armoring up. The are 1.75" lift with 125#. If you have stock bumper and don't carry a lot of weight they are great. I'm about to order a new set for 2" lift and 400# to pick up on the way to goneMoab next month, so they will be available too, but a little later, like end of May. $600 and they are yours.

Let me know. You want to do what I've got and I'm about to remove it all for an upgrade after less that one year. Nothings wrong with the equipment, I just found I was able to mod quicker than expected. I had a 5 year build plan that turned into a year. Lucky me, maybe lucky you.

EDIT: p.s., I ordered my original suspension setup and then about a month later I got a steal-of-a-deal on Hefty all around, front rear and sliders for $1500. Couldn't pass it up, but know I've got weight I wasn't prepared for.....
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id highly recommend you plan to start up with UCAs as well. with that said, the mk84 route is the route i'd go if i were to do it again (except with extended travel). If you do a lift without ucas your alignment will be ruining tires well beyond the budget you're setting for yourself with this purchase


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give alcan a call...they'll help steer ya in the right direction
Talked to Bill at Alcan.
He pretty much suggested a 400lb overload spring. He said it will ride fine on a factory weight p4x, just wont sag as much when you load it.
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